Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the FRR parameter area. You can pass parameters to your FRR from your SRB by using this address. Your FRR can establish addressability to whatever you store there by using the SDWAPARM field. Note that you will need to be

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
One thing to bear in mind is that you cannot guarantee that the R13 at the time of error is the same as the R13 that you establish in your SRB. If you use this technique, I would recommend some verification steps in your FRR code before you use the R13 from the SDWA. Rob Scott Principal Softwar

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jason Cai wrote: >We always analyse SMF data after we dump SYS1.MANX. Good. Hourly, Daily, monthly, etc? Do you splice your records? Say, RMF to dataset1, RACF to dataset2, Catalog to dataset3 and so on? Or do you grab all and everything and place them on daily dsn and MOD them later to mont

Re: CA-7 question

2015-06-15 Thread Ego RSD
Hi Scott, If that can helps... FYI and As per documented . Demanding a job into the request queue does not automatically result in immediate submission for execution. When a DEMAND is issued for a job, that job is placed in the request queue where the availability of its input requirements i

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: >SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others >LOL). Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D >Having somehow queued your records for further processing, you can do analysis >to your heart's content in assembler, COBOL, or your

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Oren, Yifat
See http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopment/rexx_smf_part4/ for a great REXX example (SMF type 30). BTW, with z/OS 2.1 Rexx can read VBS's so it is now very well equipped to easily read dumped SMF records. Regards, Yifat -Original Message- From: I

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Peter Relson
>doesn't have an input param for paramters to FRR routine Because it doesn't need one. >I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13 This sort of post scares the heck out of experienced z/OS people. Are you 100% sure that the FRR got control due to an error while your

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
Wow So I prime R2 And R2 has to be 24 key 0 I guess I can use LSQA shouldn't bump heads with the os Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Rob Scott wrote: > > When SRB receives control from IEAMSCHD, R2 contains a 24-bit address of the > FRR parameter area. > > You can p

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Oren, Yifat wrote: >See >http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/applicationdevelopment/rexx_smf_part4/ > for a great REXX example (SMF type 30). Cool! It is indeed great! Many thanks, I totally forgot about George Ng, the author of that REXX program. I see that REXX is also plag

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Remember that SMF is being written a lot and quickly. Depending on what you are looking to do, you need to consider any issues a real time monitor might have on SMF Processing. So, are you looking to monitor ALL records or some? Are there specific SMF Records you want to monitor? Are there speci

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
I hear you I'll put an eye catcher and do a sanity check Thanks Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2015, at 5:11 AM, Rob Scott wrote: > > One thing to bear in mind is that you cannot guarantee that the R13 at the > time of error is the same as the R13 that you establish in your SRB. > > If yo

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
This was a follow up from a suggestion of not knowing what type of storage VSMLOC was processing. I was issuing VSMLOC from an SRB And coding of PVT for a LSQA address would generate a ABEND which I would subsequently Re-try with the correct LSQA PARM in the VSMLOC I wasn't sure how to get the

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
No. On entry to your SRB, the *system* sets R2 to the FRR parameter area pointer if you code FRR=YES on IEAMSCHD. See the doc on IEAMSCHD in Auth Asm Services Guide. Rob Scott Principal Software Engineer Rocket Software 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA Tel: +1.781.68

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Relson wrote: >>I'll just prime R13 from the SDWA with the value that the SRB had for 13 >This sort of post scares the heck out of experienced z/OS people. I would also be scared. In fact, if the person who wants to do that stunt while being APF authorised, I would simply remove all exits

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: >Remember that SMF is being written a lot and quickly. Indeed. For some type of events recorded in SMF, I wrote automation rules to cancel a STC or notify me or do something else. Simply for the reason of speed of filling up my SYS1.MANx and my daily datasets. Your LPAR m

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
> With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its > sections with COBOL? Good point. Perhaps not. You could certainly do some processing of some SMF records with COBOL, or you could write an assembler routine to make SMF triplet sections readily addressable with COBOL. Or

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread David Crayford
On 15/06/2015 9:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote: With COBOL? Can you read RAW SMF records like SMF type 30 with all its sections with COBOL? Good point. Perhaps not. You could certainly do some processing of some SMF records with COBOL, or you could write an assembler routine to make SMF triplet s

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Itschak Mugzach
why did George used ISPF BATCH if he is not doing any use of the environment in the Rexx? It is a waist of resources. ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, David Crayford wrote: > On 15/06/2015 9:17

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Barry Merrill
MXG Software has always been able to read VSAM SMF data directly, and is smart enough to stop at the end of the active data, it does NOT read all those unused blocks that have not yet been written to. Barry Merrill Herbert W. “Barry” Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Software Merrill Consulta

Re: Wait in SRB mode

2015-06-15 Thread Donald Likens
Thanks... I found the documentation. I should read the whole "Authorized Services Guide" instead of just parts of it (or at least when I am stuck reference it!). Sorry I bothered you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archiv

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread David Crayford
On 15/06/2015 9:40 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: why did George used ISPF BATCH if he is not doing any use of the environment in the Rexx? It is a waist of resources. IDK. But REXX is a waste of resources when there are better weapons in arsenal. ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and

IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I've been receiving timeouts this morning when contacting the two IBM orderservers, https://eccgw02.rochester.ibm.com/ https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com Is anyone else having a problem? I contacted our network people and they're seeing traffic to those IP addresses from the mainframe when I exe

Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Jousma, David
Yep. mine failed this morning too. Not uncommon for a Monday morning. I've tried to remember to do my downloads on Fridays instead of Mondays. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830

Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Also try: deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Orderservers I've been receiving timeouts thi

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
Rob With all you due respect I looked at the IEAMSCHD macro in Sys1.maclibb And all I see is FRRADDR= a pointer the FRR routine I don't see FRR= parameter If I code FRRADDR= address of my FRR routine Am I supposed to prime R2 with the FRR parameter area Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2015,

Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Bohn, Dale
Once again the IBM Download Server Status Web site: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/sas/f/gdbm/home.html is GREEN. Open an SR so they know it is broken. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
Apologies, the "FRR=YES" was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to the keyword on SCHEDULE. The appropriate keyword on IEAMSCHD is "FRRADDR=" with a value that is not "NOFRR" As stated before, you do not have to code anything, the sy

Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I tried that server and received an java ssl handshake exception error. Mark Jacobs Richards, Robert B. June 15, 2015 at 10:49 AM Also try: deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:13:31 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Leap seconds are irrelevant. Let's say the routine being measured took >86,710 seconds. You would be completely correct in saying it took 1 day, 5 >minutes and 10 seconds even if the run happened to span a midnight at which >a leap second w

Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
'waste' depends on frequency of use, ease of maintenance, skill set(s), AND impact to th 4HRA. - -teD -   Original Message   From: David Crayford Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Is there any tools or interface whi

Re: OT STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:44:20 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote: >I should let this go, but Sunday is still Friday in the mind. > >Number agreement is based on subject - predicate. That is, subject (noun, >pronoun) should be consistent with its associated verb. Whether a pronoun and >its associated

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michealbutz
So All I have to do is set what I want in the 24 bytes R2 is pointing to thanks so much -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEAM

Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
But there are no dates or years in the question, only duration. And the durations are by implication well under a year. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:13 AM To: IB

Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:29:12 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >But there are no dates or years in the question, only duration. And the >durations are by implication well under a year. > I'll grant that I hijacked the topic by introducing the legal consequences of calendar dates. But "well under a ye

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to Is 24 bit ? Just makes life more difficult Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rob Scott wrote: > > Apologies, the "FRR=YES" was copied from the Auth Asm Services Guide > description of the reg contents at SRB entry and refers to

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
The address of the FRR parm area is a 24-bit address - (I seem to recall the last time I actually looked the address was something like x'0C00' but I am not 100% sure). However you choose to use the 24 bytes that this points to is up to you ; there is no reason why you cannot put a 31-bit

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:55:38 -0400, michelbutz wrote: >When The FRR parameter area which R2 points to >Is 24 bit ? Just makes life more difficult Are you serious? There is *NOTHING* special that you must do to reference storage that can be addressed with a 24-bit address. -- Tom Marchant ---

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Is your concern the fact that the area is in 24 bit storage, or that it is only 24 bytes in length? The residency issue is because the storage is part of the FRR stack, which resides in the fetch protected area of the PSA. Because it is in the PSA, it is size constrained. However, nothing is sto

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

2015-06-15 Thread michelbutz
Thank you so much you made it so easy Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Rob Scott wrote: > > The address of the FRR parm area is a 24-bit address - (I seem to recall the > last time I actually looked the address was something like x'0C00' but I > am not 100% sure). > >

Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Both of these sites appear to be responding now. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Orderservers I tried that

Re: IBM Orderservers

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Thanks. Yes I tried again a little while ago and got in. Strange that both servers were down at the same time. Mark Jacobs Richards, Robert B. June 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM Both of these sites appear to be responding now. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM

COBOL can read SMF was Re: Is there any tools or interface which could analyse or monitor SYS1.MANX directly?

2015-06-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Jun 2015 03:43:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Charles Mills wrote: > >>SMF record formats are all documented (some a lot more thoroughly than others >>LOL). > >Of course. Just have a good calculator ready... ;-D > > >>Having somehow queued your records for further processin

How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Donald Likens
I simply can't figure out how BPX1AIO is SRB capable. I need to know because I need to do the same process. I’ve observed BPX1AIO wait for 3 minutes for a TCP/IP connection to be established before timing out and returning an error. I guess it uses Transfer (IEAVXFR) to spin off a thread and pau

Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You got to build yourself a DIE. On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:08 -0500 Donald Likens wrote: :>I simply can't figure out how BPX1AIO is SRB capable. I need to know because I need to do the same process. I’ve observed BPX1AIO wait for 3 minutes for a TCP/IP connection to be established before timin

Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 June 2015 at 15:33, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > You got to build yourself a DIE. If you just want to wait for a real-time interval while in SRB (or for that matter task) mode, you can use the very handy (and remarkably, Programming Interface) service pointed to by ECVTXTSW, and minimally doc

Re: How does BPX1AIO handle SRB mode?

2015-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
Tony - that is really cool. Nice one! Rob Scott Principal Software Engineer Rocket Software 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA Tel: +1.781.684.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:I

RPG for the 360/20

2015-06-15 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
Just wondering, does anyone know where a copy of the RPG compiler for the 360/20 is? Presumably on cards, but maybe some other form. Other 360/20 software could also be useful, but mostly if it doesn't need disk or tape. thanks, -- glen -

Re: RPG for the 360/20

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Schwab
http://ibm-1401.info/RPG-1401.html No 1401 or 360/20 version. MVT is available. http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/compilers/rpg.htm On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:46 PM, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote: > Just wondering, does anyone know where a copy of the RPG compiler > for the 360/20 is? Presumably on

Re: STCK question

2015-06-15 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:49 -0500 on 06/15/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: STCK question: I'll grant that I hijacked the topic by introducing the legal consequences of calendar dates. But "well under a year" is irrelevant. Adding a mere 60 seconds to 2008-12-31 23:59:00 should give a date in 2008, not in 20

IBM contract Job

2015-06-15 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I don't know what the protocol is nowadays job posting since Darren went underground. At the So Cal z Users Group today we learned of a contract job with IBM. No idea of terms except that it's considered 'full time', i.e. not doable for part time moonlighting. The job is to test TDMF/zDMF, which

Re: RPG for the 360/20

2015-06-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
RPG on the System/360 Model 20 definitely existed. There was "Model 20 Card RPG," as an example -- Bitsavers has a manual available (GC26-3600-7). Here's the direct link (watch the wrap): http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/model20/GC26-3600-7_360_20_Card_Programming_Support_Report_Prog