Convoluted and not intuitive but it works.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 6:05 PM Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
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> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:10:57 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
> >Corrected URL as the article was moved to the Tutorials section of the site
> >https://dinoframe.io/tutorial/a-rexx-outtrap-secret
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:10:57 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
>Corrected URL as the article was moved to the Tutorials section of the site
>https://dinoframe.io/tutorial/a-rexx-outtrap-secret
It took me a while to understand what the alternative was to
call outtrap 't.'
x = sayit('Calling LISTD')
I tend to take a PDF and extract "chapters", so from TCPIP config
reference. I use pdftk on Linux to extract the section(s) on AT-TLS and
make one PDF. This makes it easier to search. If you search for PORT in
the online, or full pdf TCPIP docs you can't find the one you need.
Having pdf chapte
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IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX Outtrap Secret Hmm,Rather tricky to
read. What causes this?Lennie-Original Message-From: IBM Mainframe
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Hmm,
Rather tricky to read. What causes this?
Lennie
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I loved your kale quip. I am a life-long kale avoider.Sent from
I loved your kale quip. I am a life-long kale avoider.Sent from my Verizon,
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<0587168ababf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: 1/19/25 11:59 PM
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I used to do that, and yes, I agree: When I read the whole manual there are
always parts that confuse me, either "what the heck does that mean?" or "why
would I ever want to do that?". But a year later, when I realize why I might
want to do that, I can go back to the manual and find that bit a
Certainly I agree with some of this. But to qualify #3 and to a lesser
extent #2, I'm a bit of a fussbudget about my hard-drive organization and my
web bookmarks; I have dozens of PDFs and hundreds of web sites but I can
usually put my hands on the one I want without much trouble. Some people
thi
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 at 10:40, Lennie Bradshaw
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> I think the session manager uses SVC screening.
>
This was discussed at some length here in Oct 2024. Jim Mulder pointed out
a page https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/II02045 that hints at some
details, and contains references to a good
For some of my "books" I had little coloured tabs/labels on pages... I
knew the red one half way down was the ... command. The red one at the
top was for ... The book opened at the frequently used pages. I use a
highlighter on important phrases.
A month after I joined IBM, I took the CMS co
>The key is for those who RTFM - which sadly is rarely the case.
>
>> I last read the pubs many years ago when it was hardcopy - with
>> softcopy I typically read sections instead of cover to cover - another
>> failing of online pubs.
Having been involved with many publications over the years and
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I think the session manager uses SVC screening.
Lennie
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Terminal emulator scraping! If you can see it, you can grab it :)
But yeah, I would have never thought of Session manager.
On 1/17/2025 5:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Session Manager. Yo
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SVC Screening
I think the session manager uses SVC screening.
Lennie
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Session Manager. You need a different logon proc
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Sad, but gone are the days when we could leave reading material in the
bathroom
Now days, we just
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SVC Screening?
Lennie
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Sad, but gone are the days when we could leave reading material in the
bathroom
Now days, we just take our device in and watch YouTube instead.
Tony Thigpen
Lionel B Dyck wrote on 1/16/25 3:17 PM:
The key is for those who RTFM - which sadly is rarely the case.
I last read the pubs many y
SVC Screening?
Lennie
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Seymour J Metz
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Actually, TPUT has been trapable for decades. The details are left as an
exercise for the
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Corrected URL as the article was moved to the Tutorials section of the site
https://
Corrected URL as the article was moved to the Tutorials section of the site
https://dinoframe.io/tutorial/a-rexx-outtrap-secret
Enjoy
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:08 PM Seymour J Metz wrote:
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> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
> נֵ֣צַח יִ
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> Lionel B Dyck <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 3:17 PM
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The key is for those who RTFM
There is always the option of sending the PDF to FedEx Kinkies and have them
printed if you consider the manual critical
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> On Jan 16, 2025, at 14:17, Lionel B Dyck
> <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> The
It is not a secret when it is documented in the z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference.
Which we've all read cover-to-cover amirite?
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=rgc-outtrap-versus-msg-function-when-trapping-suppressing-output
"OUTTRAP cannot trap SAY output from within the exec that issued OU
The key is for those who RTFM - which sadly is rarely the case.
I last read the pubs many years ago when it was hardcopy - with
softcopy I typically read sections instead of cover to cover - another
failing of online pubs.
Thanks for the tip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:02 PM Schmitt, Michael
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