Which leads people to tell me that, e.g., ISPF, can't do things that I have been routinely doing for decades.
I must admit, though, that the increased size of some manuals has discouraged me from reading the whole thing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Lionel B Dyck <0000057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 10:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX Outtrap Secret External Message: Use Caution you are correct - it is my error for not reading the pub from cover to cover - but I would posit that very few technical publications are read from cover to cover - rather they are read in sections that pertain to the task at hand. On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:06 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > How is your not reading it a failure of the pub? I might agree that it's a > failure of your screen size, depending on what you're reading it on. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Lionel B Dyck <0000057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 3:17 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: REXX Outtrap Secret > > External Message: Use Caution > > > The key is for those who RTFM - which sadly is rarely the case. > > I last read the pubs many years ago when it was hardcopy - with > softcopy I typically read sections instead of cover to cover - another > failing of online pubs. > > Thanks for the tip. > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 2:02 PM Schmitt, Michael > <michael.schm...@dxc.com> wrote: > > > > It is not a secret when it is documented in the z/OS TSO/E REXX Reference. > > Which we've all read cover-to-cover amirite? > > > > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=rgc-outtrap-versus-msg-function-when-trapping-suppressing-output > > > > "OUTTRAP cannot trap SAY output from within the exec that issued OUTTRAP. > > However, if exec1 invokes exec2 (as a cmd of subroutine) and exec 2 issues > > SAY output, or exec2 generates TRACE output, the calling exec can trap that > > information." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > > Lionel B Dyck > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 1:24 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: REXX Outtrap Secret > > > > I have a new post at > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/18wRVPNC_2KOHi7Rc2LIiBAeqVTZQTA2MuCiNU8xG4vnpFN_ESPoPEbPk5FPf4SgLLPMTjN4DYJVrVn5jJ_tuYoRsjbgB40ukfD-chd-6D4KD8LO7cpIGNTz3FwYC_pOjWrXJvCFt0wVc6L_EEJSk2riJninDwHj3840q31m-eETm-DwkZeSp7qwqqwHdGPww7yPjHg-mLbXomQO5342ybodxo7UYG41Q-Xq3silO8hh_HC3pfhfdaV3HicFXHQj-OQMf9QNGTxSLQNKUL8Lp2k-WaXCMuU4-yrUlctdRGkUowgfwrcrAREzvPrORuJVv6UsumaoEEadJMhvZD_dGPATT7mxW-ww5b3OJSTWM3_SX-BDMPOMgzONJt_W7OoC_Q83ge8sWrTvvhNuZ1VUTWv4BufRGlLHV4yBUXI-SNVs/https%3A%2F%2Fdinoframe.io%2Farticle%2Fa-rexx-outtrap-secret > > which y'all might > > find interesting if you use REXX on z/OS. > > > > -- > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Website:https://github.com/lbdyck > > > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John > > Wooden > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website:https://github.com/lbdyck > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John > Wooden > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website:https://github.com/lbdyck "Worry more about your character than your reputation. 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