Hmm,
Rather tricky to read. What causes this?
Lennie
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I loved your kale quip. I am a life-long kale avoider.Sent from my Verizon,
Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Certainly I agree with some of this. But to qualify #3 and to a lesserextent
#2, I'm a bit of a fussbudget about my hard-drive organization and myweb
bookmarks; I have dozens of PDFs and hundreds of web sites but I canusually put
my hands on the one I want without much trouble. Some peoplethink it's too
much trouble to worry about, but "library science isfoundational to all human
knowledge", ie if you know you have it storedsomewhere but can't remember the
path and/or filename how does it help?And I spend most of my time in front of a
screen, anyway, so #1 doesn'tapply :).---Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com,
cell 336 382-7313/* Cooking tip: If you cook your kale with a little coconut
oil, it makes iteasier to scrape it into the garbage. -YS @NYinLS2121
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<IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf OfbillogdenSent: Friday, January 17, 2025
12:25Having been involved with many publications over the years and
beingsomewhat interested in "how useful was it" discussions, I must agree
withthose who think "real printed" publications are often more useful. 1. You
do not need to sit in front of a screen to read them. 2. You can easily (with
paper clips, fingers, etc) refer back and forthbetween useful sections. 3.
You can usually put your hands on the printed pub, whereas with allthe exotic
network names, addresses, URLs, aliases, logons, passwords, andso forth I have
often been unable to find the same online material I wastrying to read last
week. 4. While it is difficult to prove this, I have found that many
peopletend to remember better those tidbits they read on "real" paper. 5. I
sometimes make little notes on a paper page. 6. Like others who have made
comments, I almost NEVER read a full pubonline. I might not fully read a
printed pub, but I often scan ("flipthrough") the whole thing -- just to find
material that "catches my eye." 7. Many manuals (mostly z/OS related
materials) have grown MUCH larger(or they might start out this way!) There are
some odd economic andmanagement aspects to this. Real printed material cost $$$
to produce anddistribute and there can be some effort made to better control
the amount oftext (i.e, the number of pages) involved. Online material costs
almostnothing to distribute and, believe it or not, more text can mean
lessediting/management involved. In many cases, the number of pages
producedmight be indirectly reflected in salaries and promotions. 8. The
growing sizes often makes it difficult ($$) to actually print aPDF. 9.
Feedback from users can be more effective for "real" printed manuals,especially
when the authors' names are included. My $0.02, if it is worth that
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