W dniu 24.04.2025 o 06:17, Peter pisze:
Hello
Apart from IBM, Are there any vendors who still have physical tape backup
solution.
I know Oracle withdrew it's physical tape solution last year.
Hitachi doesn't have physical tape backup solution for mainframe.
Does anyone know if fujitsu still ha
I think the challenge you will face, whatever route you choose, the word
support will apply. Pretty much all physical 3n90 type drives are EOL or EOSL &
even with the FUJITSU Storage ETERNUS CS8000 VTL, what tape drives & libraries
you can attach might be encompassed by the aforementioned EOL or
Peter asks:
>Apart from IBM, Are there any vendors who still have physical tape backup
>solution.
I assume you're asking about z/OS.
Visara advertises real physical tape support as an option for their Vi-5990A
and Vi-5990L virtual tape libraries.
mainstorconcept GmbH advertises that their z/RTD
You are correct in both cases
VTE = Virtual Tape Engine
And back end tape no longer supported but when it was it was Fiber Channel LTO
only
As far as I know the hardware and code is still in each VTE
One thing to note I have been retired from the Dell EMC DLM group for the past
2 years
Carl Swan
Auto correction:
VTE could mean Virtual Tape Engine.
However it does not support LTO at backend.
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W dniu 02.02.2025 o 01:29, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze:
What is DLM VTE?
I know Dell/EMC DLm, former Bustech.
I don't know VTE.
And I heard from EMC guys they do no
or you and I hope you can continue to use it.
Carl Swanson
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We are looking for on premises and ejectable tape solution
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, 11:23 Tomer Zelberzvig,
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> Just in my case attach DLM VTE to physical tape and send as generic backup
> to any LTO drives
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Just in my case attach DLM VTE to physical tape and send as generic backup to
any LTO drives
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physical tape backup
We are looking for on premises and ejectable tape solution
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, 11:23 Tomer Zelberzvig, <
059ecf7fe8fe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I'm not sure about your exact use case, but you can use BMC AMI Cloud
> w
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:57 PM kekronbekron <
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> Apologies, I didn't mean tha
Apologies, I didn't mean that as a jab.
Brought it up because everything they do needs to be Carbon these days (I'm
guessing).
And to be honest, when done right, it looks *great*...
Like
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Hello Carlos
Right we use DLM8500 and Data Domain to backup the mainframe data.
Is it possible to send mainframe data to LT0 drives from Dell backup solutions?
Has anyone tried or you have working solutions already?
On Fri, 24 J
We are looking for on premises and ejectable tape solution
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, 11:23 Tomer Zelberzvig, <
059ecf7fe8fe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I'm not sure about your exact use case, but you can use BMC AMI Cloud with
> our Cloud Data Sets feature to send your
Hello Peter,
I'm not sure about your exact use case, but you can use BMC AMI Cloud with our
Cloud Data Sets feature to send your tape data directly to cloud object storage.
If you choose the public cloud option, then the storage is already external to
your site and should meet whatever you're lo
Peter wrote:
>Are these available as ejectable tape ?
Yes, you can eject tape cartridges from the IBM TS4500 and TS4300 tape
libraries then move those tape cartridges wherever you want. Here's the
information for the TS4500, for example:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/ts4500-tape-library?topi
Hello Carlos
Right we use DLM8500 and Data Domain to backup the mainframe data.
Is it possible to send mainframe data to LT0 drives from Dell backup
solutions?
Has anyone tried or you have working solutions already?
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, 22:23 Bodra - Pessoal, <
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Hello Tim,
Are these available as ejectable tape ?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, 03:39 Timothy Sipples, wrote:
> There’s some incorrect (or at least out of date) information in this
> thread. (I’ll try again!)
>
> The IBM TS7700 also supports the IBM TS4300 tape library via Feature Code
> 5995 (previ
"even with the Carbon design"
LOL
On 1/26/2025 7:26 PM, kekronbekron wrote:
Once again, TechDocs is gold.
Why can't IBM make a simple page of these docs with metadata about them (date
created/modified).
Make it as flashy as you want, but a simple table isn't hard to create, even
with the Carb
Once again, TechDocs is gold.
Why can't IBM make a simple page of these docs with metadata about them (date
created/modified).
Make it as flashy as you want, but a simple table isn't hard to create, even
with the Carbon design?
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Brian Westerman wrote:
>….The advent of VTS systems made all of those problems ( which are
>real and happen all the time), dissolve, and you would be creating
>them all over again.
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>Now the advantage, which can be considered HUGE: tapes can be moved.
>Easily moved. Single
There’s some incorrect (or at least out of date) information in this thread.
(I’ll try again!)
The IBM TS7700 also supports the IBM TS4300 tape library via Feature Code 5995
(previously via RPQ). Both are available for rack mounted installation. Please
refer to this whitepaper for details:
htt
I disagree, physical tape generation is not efficient (cost-wise or in reality
man-power wise).
You can Rsync most VTS boxes, and most also have built in DR recovery options
to allow offloading copies of the data.
There are fairly inexpensive VTS's (like a z/VT from Optica) which allows you
W dniu 25.01.2025 o 07:19, Brian Westerman pisze:
You could have you network attached storage located anywhere you want.
No. TVC aka disk cache in VTS (most vendors) cannot be any storage you
choose.
Obviously you have not thought this through. Moving physical tapes costs money
and puts
You could have you network attached storage located anywhere you want.
Obviously you have not thought this through. Moving physical tapes costs money
and puts those tapes in danger every time they are touched. They can be
dropped, stolen, get wet, etc.
The advent of VTS systems made all o
a "better" solution would be to have your virtual tape controller drive (where
your virtual tapes are kept) copied to another DASD (preferably a raid based
system). Trying to re-introduce physical tape into your site would be undoing
many years of purposeful movement away from the many, many MA
Hello Steve
Yes I am looking for a full solution including physical drive and
controllers.
We have virtual tape solution but in parallel would like to send copies to
physical tapes
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, 19:47 Steve Beaver, <
050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Are you look
Hello
To be precise we need a solution where we can eject the tape on a monthly
basis and move it to vault.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, 21:21 Peter, wrote:
> Hello Steve
>
> Yes I am looking for a full solution including physical drive and
> controllers.
>
> We have virtual tape solution but in parall
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Chat GPT says in answer to:
On the IBM mainframe operating system z/os customers use physical tape to
backup their systems. What vendors manufacture physical tape systems and media
today
Is:
W dniu 24.01.2025 o 16:41, Peter pisze:
Hello
My organization has asked me to explore about the vendors who are still
providing external physical tape backup.
How many companies are there who are making physical tape Solutions and I
would like to discuss with them.
Any pointers would be apprec
physical tape backup
Are you looking for Physical Drives and controllers ?
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Chat GPT says in answer to:
On the IBM mainframe operating system z/os customers use physical tape to
backup their systems. What vendors manufacture physical tape systems and media
today
Is:
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As of today, several vendors manufacture physical tape systems and media for
IBM m
Are you looking for Physical Drives and controllers ?
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My organi
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