Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-12-03 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
I've never been comfortable with changing severity levels for a problem. It's either a Sev1 - critical function not available - or it's not. The impact to the business doesn't change just because of convenience. I've had managers try to play the raise and lower game and frequently had closed do

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-12-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz wrote: >> I figured IBM looked at the sev 1s and said "oh, it's them again" and just >> treated it like a sev 2. :-) (boy who cried wolf syndrome) >That's why I prefer to open incidents as Sev 3[1]; when I open one at Sev 1 or >Sev 2, I don't have a rack record of severity inflati

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-12-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <9045833222889555.wa.markmzelden@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/30/2012 at 02:18 PM, Mark Zelden said: >What I've done in those cases is to open as a Sev 2 and then >explain the criticality of the situation and say "please treat >this like a sev 1" and that has worked well for me. Of cour

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-12-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <9673478860418448.wa.charles.kreiterbwc.state.oh...@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/30/2012 at 12:23 PM, Chuck Kreiter said: >I always reserve SEV 1 to issues that have made my primary systems >unusable. I have had IBM'ers tell us to raise to SEV 1 in the >morning and then drop to SEV 2 at quittin

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-12-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
I tend to agree with Gregory and others. If it's Severity 1 then that should mean you're working on the problem round the clock. A serious problem should be treated seriously, basically. However, a *little* nuance is in order. For example, we now have smartphones and high speed networks with VPNs.

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Sev 1 can also cover security/integrity issues. Long ago I reported that under Profs (or maybe OfficeVision) a user could send a document (script file) to another user with embedded codes (.sy I think) which executed CMS or CP commands when the document was formatted, because the system's DCF (

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Eric Bielefeld
e" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors) On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Nevertheless, you are allowed to mark the problem incident as Severity 1 whenev

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Ed Gould
m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Conley Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/ OS software vendors) On 11/30/2012 10:53 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, Timothy Sipples

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/30/2012 12:44 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: With all the EAV fun you've already had, was that on an EAV volume in cyl managed space? Lol! You call that "fun"?? :D This most recent issue was on, what some people on this list would call, a 'MOD-81' volume. It is an EAV, but the 5000-cylinder ZFS

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:31:18 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Follow-up: Based on the PDA logs, IBM thought that one large (5000 cylinder) >ZFS >seemed to be a trigger for whatever the problem was. We backed that up manually >via BACKDS command and then the normal dailies started working again. (Whe

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/30/2012 12:12 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: I have become curious. I know you run multiple Lpars at different levels of z/OS. It seem s unlikely to me that HSM is failing in all of them. And that you should be able to get your back-ups, at least temporarily form a working copy :) In this p

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:07:57 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >On 11/30/2012 10:20 AM, McKown, John wrote: >> To me, and to every shop I've ever worked at, SEV 1 means "we're dead and we >> are all staying here until we are working again." One time, this meant a 36 >> hour shift for all 3 sysprogs.

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 12:08 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me lo

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/30/2012 10:20 AM, McKown, John wrote: To me, and to every shop I've ever worked at, SEV 1 means "we're dead and we are all staying here until we are working again." One time, this meant a 36 hour shift for all 3 sysprogs. I was much younger then. The inability to run daily system backup

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Greg Shirey
I, too, use SEV 1 only when the system is unusable. I feel fortunate that I've only had a handful of SEV 1's over the past 17 years. I've never had IBM make a request to raise the level as described, but I suspect if they did, I could agree to it. That is, if I believed the issue was SEV 2,

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Chuck Kreiter
I always reserve SEV 1 to issues that have made my primary systems unusable. I have had IBM'ers tell us to raise to SEV 1 in the morning and then drop to SEV 2 at quitting time. This never set well with me. I had a supervisor (who was and remains an idiot) who wanted me to open a SEV 1 ticket

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread McKown, John
l Sev 1' - but in > general I try to let the realities of the impact dictate...) > > Thanks! > Greg Cardillo > Email: gregory.cardi...@hp.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On B

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Jousma, David
I won't do that. It's a double edged sword. I've had my management tell me to make something a SEV1, I *think* mostly because it's important to them, or maybe impatience. My stock answer is always, if it's a SEV1, I have to do anything to resolve it, up to and including disrupting the syste

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Cardillo, Gregory
BM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Conley Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors) On 11/30/2012 10:53 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: &

Re: Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Thomas Conley
On 11/30/2012 10:53 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Nevertheless, you are allowed to mark the problem incident as Severity 1 whenever you have somebody on shift.(*) Therefore it's possible to have your first qualified support person come in at, say, 8:00 a.

Changing PMR Severity (Was: Makes me love most of my z/OS software vendors)

2012-11-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Nevertheless, you are allowed to mark the problem incident as Severity 1 whenever you have somebody on shift.(*) Therefore it's possible to have your first qualified support person come in at, say, 8:00 a.m. and raise the PMR to Severity 1. Then, as