sh Isn't any closer
> to identifying my ethnicity than saying that You're Buddhist or Christian.
>
> ________
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> of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Sent: Sun
- you could send it to Germany, I would be happy.
Of course, I would pay you the needed transfer costs.
For exchanging contact information, please send me an offline mail. Thanks.
BTW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kudlick
Am 17.09.2023 um 17:04 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> Good new
send it to Germany, I would be happy.
Of course, I would pay you the needed transfer costs.
For exchanging contact information, please send me an offline mail. Thanks.
BTW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kudlick
Am 17.09.2023 um 17:04 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> Good news, while cleanin
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I already told you, you’re Jewish. Just like most p
?
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You should read some history of the Jewish ghettos of Europe
during the day.
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On Sunday, September 17, 2023, 11:50 AM, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
I’ll guarantee you’re Jewish. There aren’t many Irish kids with the first name
Shmuel. Are you really equating the degree comme
I agree with Ray Mullins, Assembler is a niche market and shrinking.
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On Sunday, September 17, 2023, 12:01 PM, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Dying can be slow or fast. Assembler has been dying a slow death for d
a time I felt it necessary to respond to every
single reply and retort, then I matured.
I now return you to your regular programming...
On 9/17/2023 7:53 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Which of my facts aren’t true? Assembler is dying. Confirmed by one of
> Assembler’s experts, Ray Mullins.
&g
estors
live in the 19th and 20th centuries?
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The pack mentality here is amazing.
Yeah, a pack of cats. I guess that your super intelligence hasn't picked up on
all of the disagreements here that don't involve you.
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n't picked up on
all of the disagreements here that don't involve you.
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Which of my facts aren’t true? Assembler is dying. Confirmed by one of
Assembler’s experts, Ray Mullins.
With a name like Bill Johnson, I would either be Scandinavian or black most
likely. I’m the former. Swedish mostly. Are you aware of how Swedes are named?
Here’s some context easily found
iPhone
On Saturday, September 16, 2023, 11:55 AM, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
The only reason I stay here is for the lachen. But 40+ years of working with
dummkopf coworkers like the ones here was quite lucrative and very
entertaining. It’s
a long time. I am laughing all the time :-)
Am 16.09.2023 um 17:23 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> I’m going to laugh when AI replaces many of you assembler deniers. The under
> 40 for sure. Maybe the under 50.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Saturday, September 1
l the provocations now prefers to be
silent on this
to protect itself from exposure?
Does AI have a sense of humour?
Am 16.09.2023 um 08:28 schrieb Andrew Wilkinson:
> You could be right.
> However, my mental image is of the real Bill Johnson gagged and tied to a
> chair in his basement
>
cussion here.
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
> z/OS System Programmer
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Em sexta-feira, 15 de setembro de 2023 às 15:34:14 BRT, Bill Johnson
> <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu:
>
>
>
eful information, and not contributing anything.
You're excellent at trolling though, which seems to be your sad reason for
being. So you're entertaining, in a ghastly sort of way.
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:33:25 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>Are you that naive? Ever been to Share? The
For all I know, you might be a klan member lying about his skin color.
Now, statistically, it's likely that most of the US posters calling you out are
White, but this is an international list.
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At 02:26 PM 9/14/2023, Bill Johnson wrote:
>It's already passed yours.
>
>
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>
>On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:22 PM, David Spiegel
><0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>You
Best bet is to ask the IBM expert who is the SMP/E manager. Kurt Quackenbush.
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On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:36 PM, Jake Anderson
wrote:
Hello
Good morning
Is there any freeware product which can be installed using SMP/e.
Any pointers are appreciated
organizations.
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On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 6:49 PM, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Along with AI, another growing field is IT security. MGM & Caesars got hacked,
using LinkedIn, and you guys wonder why I’m not on
Along with AI, another growing field is IT security. MGM & Caesars got hacked,
using LinkedIn, and you guys wonder why I’m not on it. Going to cost them 10’s
of millions.
"All ALPHV ransomware group did to compromise MGM Resorts was hop on LinkedIn,
find an employee, then call the Help Desk. A
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It’s already passed yours.
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On Thursday, Sep
It’s already passed yours.
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On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:22 PM, David Spiegel
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Yours included?
On 2023-09-14 13:29, Bill Johnson wrote:
> AI will surpass human intelligence.
>
> https
AI will surpass human intelligence.
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writing, "within a generation ... the problem of creating 'artificial
intelligence' will substantially be solved".^[210]
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Am 14.09.2023 um 01:37 schrieb
Prove it.
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On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 10:54 PM, David Crayford
wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2023, at 10:39 am, Bill Johnson
> <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Ray’s words. Cut and pasted from his response to a
ry.”
There is nothing to indicate assembler programming is growing and in fact it is
shrinking by approximately 5% a year.
AI is going to grow exponentially. For decades.
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On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 9:59 PM, David Crayford
wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2023, at 9:3
Potential positions? Either you have positions or you don’t. Or, you have
positions and no applicants. Which once again proves my point. Don’t waste your
time learning a dying skill. As stated by Assembler expert Ray Mullins.
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On Wednesday, September 13, 2023,
, 2023, 7:20 PM, Seymour J Metz
wrote:
Just how many decades are there in an inning?
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f least resistance is what makes rivers and men crooked.
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A generalist will rarely be unemployed. A specialist will usually make more
money but only until the skillset
xceedingly remote. -Abraham Albert Michelson in 1903 */
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AI Specialist Salary
Last Updated on: August 14, 2023
The average AI specialist salary in the United Sta
intelligence specialists are California at
$246,143 per year, Oregon at $201,305, and Washington at $193,768. The
lowest-paying area is Georgia, with an average salary of $90,068 a year.
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On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 4:47 PM, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dm
A generalist will rarely be unemployed. A specialist will usually make more
money but only until the skillset involved begins to decline or is phased out.
Assembler programming has been in decline for decades.
>From Dice.com September 2022.
There’s a pervasive myth that being able to program in
s this contract or perm?
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No one said I could type with one thumb
> On Sep 12, 2023, at 11:15, Bill Johnson
> <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I’ve done upgrades. Numerous times. Of z/OS, DB2, CICS, IMS, MQ, TSS, and a
> boatl
were a systems programmer and were doing a z/OS upgrade, you
would probably have to repair some SMF, JES2 and Security Exits a lot
more than "almost never".
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-12 08:56, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Making up scenarios that never or almost never happen.
>
>
&
David so badly wants his dying art to be important because it makes him feel
superior. Textbook narcissist.
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On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:58 AM, David Crayford
wrote:
> On 12 Sep 2023, at 8:04 pm, Jon Butler wrote:
>
> There will be a need for assembler
Making up scenarios that never or almost never happen.
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On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:53 AM, David Spiegel
<0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Hi Jon,
Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a
DB2 Secondary A
d.
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-12 08:16, Bill Johnson wrote:
> “ Not to denigrate assembler programmers, or those that decide to take up
> Sanskrit, but it is a dying art.”
>
> Indeed.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:04 AM, Jon B
“ Not to denigrate assembler programmers, or those that decide to take up
Sanskrit, but it is a dying art.”
Indeed.
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On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:04 AM, Jon Butler
wrote:
There will be a need for assembler programmers for quite a while, but mainly
becau
rk and your colleague (Assembler
expert) was employed in West Virginia.
In this case, you might even earn more than your colleague, due to
regional economics (nothing to do with technical ability).
Your logic, or lack thereof, gives away your real skill level.
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-11 23:00, B
Some “geniuses” here, at least some self proclaimed ones, think knowing
assembler makes them real Systems Programmers. Well, I’ve been getting paid
like one for 2 decades. Anyone dumb enough to learn assembler in 2023, which is
dying a slow tortuous death, deserves to be replaced by AI. (They wi
That’s a good article. Also indicates where the future of IT is headed.
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On Sunday, September 10, 2023, 4:37 PM, Bob T Roller
<044ef325f6c3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Just go to the CNBC home page. It’s now the third story.
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This list is dying just like assembler. Another 5, maybe 10 years, both will be
in the dustbin of history. In 10 years, most of the dominant posters will be
gone.
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On Friday, September 8, 2023, 7:44 PM, Tom Brennan
wrote:
I'd say head them over to
https://ww
I think Rex is onto something.
Cause
Module CEEPLPKA was failing on the BLDL because empty library, PRD2.SCEECICS,
was in the LIBDEF search.
Resolving The Problem
Remove empty Language Environment (LE) library PRD2.SCEECICS from the LIBDEF
search and include the PRD2.SCEEBASE at the beginnin
nard D Woren
wrote:
Bill Johnson wrote on 9/7/2023 1:05 PM:
> We used to use ROSCOE at a small shop in the 80’s because it used less
> resources. I hated it.
ROSCOE was one of a collection of TSO alternatives, which were all
junk. TONE, ACEP, Wylbur, maybe more that I don't reme
Agree.
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wrote:
We used it at a bank because of the number of application developers. TSO was
reserved for system programmers. Also, it was limited in what you could do
with the OS. made sense for the
;... because it used less resources ..."
Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage.
For a guy who knows so much about about a multitude of topics, it behooves you
to write more correctly.
It might even increase your credibility.
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rds program ..."
Please translate this statement into English.
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S
redibility.
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-07 16:05, Bill Johnson wrote:
> We used to use ROSCOE at a small shop in the 80’s because it used less
> resources. I hated it.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 3:56 PM, Leonard D Woren
>
"
Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage.
For a guy who knows so much about about a multitude of topics, it
behooves you to write more correctly.
It might even increase your credibility.
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-07 16:05, Bill Johnson wrote:
> We
f doing
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any obvious unreason, can and does regard the other as radically selfish.
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We used to use ROSCOE at a small shop in the 80’s because it used less
resources. I hated it.
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On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 3:56 PM, Leonard D Woren
wrote:
What was the first OS that you had a 2 MB TSO region? What hardware.
MVT TSO on the 4 MB 360/91 at
Disregard AI at your own peril.
OpenAI launches ChatGPT Enterprise, the firm's biggest announcement since
ChatGPT.
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Agree completely. What really irked me was bosses who weren’t mainframe
literate who thought they had a better grasp of what and how to solve mainframe
issues.
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Monty the Mustang will be disappointed.
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On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 9:25 PM, Matt Hogstrom
wrote:
Sorry Dave but I’m skipping to Bill’s response.
I recently blocked Bill's e-mail and don’t get to see his posts apart from
people’s responses. For those
ible processing speed, & ability to put the results into a form the user
is requesting. But, there is some logic and machine learning involved. The next
decade will be amazing.
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On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 7:31 PM, Leonard D Woren
wrote:
Bill Johnson wrot
Because throughout over half my career ACF2 was the number 1 security package
and RACF only had around 20% of the market. Medical Mutual, my longest time at
any one employer used Top Secret. Most people who claim to be knowledgeable
about the mainframe, would know ACF2 was the number 1 security
rdam and New York.
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On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 12:39 PM, Peter Sylvester
wrote:
Uk is not US.
On 06/09/2023 15:15, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Lol, it pays to do thorough research. 1818 it began.
>
> https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/legal-infor
ys like the
> terrible twenty.
I hope that you are including yourself in that.
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gave you the awards?
Since you're the self-proclaimed expert on the relevance of Assembler,
please explain how an installer like yourself would create an ICHRDSNT
Exit (with appropriate SMP/e control cards).
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-06 08:11, Bill Johnson wrote:
> LOL, good find Dave. I
so I asked
>>> chatGPT to compare/contrast two of the books. Then two other
>>> books, etc. In literally every case it came back with the same
>>> introductory text and conclusion - but inserted a couple of
>>> paragraphs that was similar to a book r
wrote:
"LexisNexis is over 200 years old..."
Bull. LexisNexis was started by a lawyer in 1956...
Joe
On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 7:57 AM Bill Johnson <
0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Shocking, LexisNexis is over 200 years old and is designed specifically
&
;dinosaurs" and "narcissists"
(and "idiots", BTW) in this discussions. And that's why I will not
answer to any more mails from you from now on.
Should have done so earlier, maybe.
Bernd
Am 06.09.2023 um 14:11 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> Everything I said about as
>> compared the 'differences'. Not very impressed.
>>
>> My PhD son uses it to find obscure hypotheses and formulas that would
>> otherwise require a great many hours (or days) of searching. My MS
>> son uses it in a similar fashion to ferret out alterna
.
Clearly assembler is not long for the mainframe world and just waiting for the
grim reaper to arrive. And the dinosaurs here trying so hard to not become
extinct.
Notice how the 20-30 experts can’t say, Bill Johnson is right. Because it makes
them wrong and narcissists don’t like saying they were
asking the same question. So that
cut and paste isn’t a factor.
What are you afraid of? That a computer can do what you do? That your
“skills” aren’t all that impressive and can be automated away?
On 9/5/2023 4:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I never presented it as a
of? That a computer can do what you do? That your
> “skills” aren’t all that impressive and can be automated away?
>
> On 9/5/2023 4:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I never presented it as a working model.
>
> -
especially if I am called an idiot in the very same
mail that I am answering to.
Kind regards
Bernd
Am 06.09.2023 um 01:53 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> If you consider this respectful, there’s something wrong with you.
>
> “So your JCL expertise qualifies you as a systems programmer
ell.
Is that a specific way to support your arguments?
Am 06.09.2023 um 01:31 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> I find it stunning the technology people are trying to hang onto the past
> (assembler) and bashing the future. (ChatGPT) Or pe
c",
which is the same in German, so I understand that well.
Is that a specific way to support your arguments?
Am 06.09.2023 um 01:31 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> I find it stunning the technology people are trying to hang onto the past
> (assembler) and bashing the future. (ChatGPT) Or per
ry to answer repectfully
to your mails,
almost every answer from you contains the word "idiot" or "idiotic",
which is the same in German, so I understand that well.
Is that a specific way to support your arguments?
Am 06.09.2023 um 01:31 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> I find it stunni
I find it stunning the technology people are trying to hang onto the past
(assembler) and bashing the future. (ChatGPT) Or perhaps that’s what aging
people do.
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 7:04 PM, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-r
e not interested.
Kind regards
Bernd
Am 05.09.2023 um 18:00 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> Why do you doubt it? Is it because you hope it doesn’t? Certainly, one of you
> assembler geniuses could test it.
>
> Like Mullins said, and others mentioned, most companies that run z/OS don’t
> need a
:
I offer training classes,
Steve Thompson does.
If a company really wants ASSEMBLER training, they can find it here.
Am 04.09.2023 um 22:35 schrieb Bill Johnson:
> I love how many of you downplay others who don’t do what you do. And act like
> it’s inferior. Plus, puff yourselves up simp
hrieb Bill Johnson:
> To claim people who don’t code assembler or read dumps aren’t systems
> programmers is idiotic.
>
> ...
>
> I learned zero JCL in college. I learned and became an expert at EDS. But,
> college gave me the wherewithal to kno
I agree with Matt that Ray is the man. Exactly why his response was used. And
he is correct that assembler has become a niche product. Which is exactly what
I’ve seen for most of my 40+ year career. A slow steady decline.
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 1:17 PM,
ill,
I have a better idea.
Why don't you and the 2 buddies who helped you modify the IEFUSI fix it?
Probably because you don't have the wherewithal (even with 2 helpers).
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-05 12:04, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Lol, how about going to chatgpt and asking the same qu
Metal C, exactly what Mullins said is replacing assembler. In the end, my
contention in the beginning is proving truer by the day. And you’re right,
assembler isn’t that hard to learn and not hard to replace,
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:36 PM, Matt Hogstr
, 12:25 PM, David Spiegel
<0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Hi Bill,
I have a better idea.
Why don't you and the 2 buddies who helped you modify the IEFUSI fix it?
Probably because you don't have the wherewithal (even with 2 helpers).
Regards,
David
On 2023-0
Lol, how about going to chatgpt and asking the same question. So that cut and
paste isn’t a factor.
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:02 PM, David Spiegel
<0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Hi Steve,
It won't. The first executable statemen
Why do you doubt it? Is it because you hope it doesn’t? Certainly, one of you
assembler geniuses could test it.
Like Mullins said, and others mentioned, most companies that run z/OS don’t
need assembler programmers. That numbers in the thousands if not ten thousand.
Whereas ISV’s who are the li
Agree completely.
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 9:59 AM, Doug Fuerst
wrote:
I also think that what many of us seem to forget is that skills need to
be used to stay sharp and to learn new things in that field.
If you are not doing Assembler a fair amount of t
Bill Johnson <
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> Must have missed this.
>
>
> > I'll be honest - it's getting smaller and smaller. It's become a niche,
> > mainly for system tools ISVs. Metal C is where the invisible hand of IBM
>
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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 10:22 AM, David Elliot
wrote:
Very little from what I see. What little
there is is stupid stuff like reverse engineering code so that the client
can rewrite it in JAVA or whatever the language of the day is.
On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 6:48 AM Bill Jo
How much demand is there for IBM mainframe Assembler programmers?
Ray Mullin said this:
I'll be honest - it's getting smaller and smaller. It's become a niche, mainly
for system tools ISVs. Metal C is where the invisible hand of IBM is pushing
the industry.
Having said that…
There
F'0' Input buffer for numbers
>> NUMOUT DC F'0' Output buffer for result
>> ZERO DC F'0' Constant zero
>> END MAIN End of program
>>
>> On 9/4/2023 9:57 AM, Paul Gilmartinrwrote
uted?
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lol better known! That’s the goal of these cult me
than you are.
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g to show for them. Listing my
projects done using assembler language is simply stating facts. Your listing
your degree and places you've worked is indeed irrelevant puffery.
Now let's return to your nonsensical assertions about assembler language.
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 20:18:13 +, Bill Joh
ling things.
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 20:12:41 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>No doubt you don’t have one.
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>On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:11 PM, g...@gabegold.com
>wrote:
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>That's correctly spelled z/OS. Even beginning syst
ogramming isn't installing things.
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 20:12:41 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>No doubt you don’t have one.
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>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:11 PM, g...@gabegold.com
>wrote:
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>That's correctly spelled z/O
- Training refers to an act of inculcating specific skills in a person.
Education is all about gaining theoretical knowledge in the classroom or any
institution.
- Training is a way to develop specific skills, whereas education is a
typical system of learning.
- Training is complete
t understand on the
list?
Perhaps cheer yourself up by reading some comfortable JCL, or utility control
statements. And set some nice variables to feel better.
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 00:06:16 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>Degrees are never relevant to the non-degreed. Unless you work for IB
y control
statements. And set some nice variables to feel better.
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 00:06:16 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>Degrees are never relevant to the non-degreed. Unless you work for IBM, you’re
>likely an installer of zOS.
edu> wrote:
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 17:20:24 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>The formatting was perfect. The cut & paste wasn’t.
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Could you direct it to a file instead of the screen, and attach the file?
(Teachers look askance at copies of hom
n to caller
>** Define input and output areas
>*
>NUMIN DC F'0' Input buffer for numbers
>NUMOUT DC F'0' Output buffer for result
>ZERO DC F'0' Constant zero
> END MAIN End of program
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