I’ve done upgrades. Numerous times. Of z/OS, DB2, CICS, IMS, MQ, TSS, and a 
boatload of third party software.


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On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 9:11 AM, David Spiegel 
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Hi Bill,
Never happen?
If you were a systems programmer and were doing a z/OS upgrade, you 
would probably have to repair some SMF, JES2 and Security Exits a lot 
more than "almost never".

Regards,
David

On 2023-09-12 08:56, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Making up scenarios that never or almost never happen.
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> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:53 AM, David Spiegel 
> <00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> Hi Jon,
> Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a
> DB2 Secondary Authorization Exit WITHOUT Assembler.
> Next time my customer asks me to amend it, I will be sure to give them
> your answer. (I added logic to it to allow Informatica to authenticate
> via ACF2.)
>
> Regards,.
> David
>
> On 2023-09-12 08:04, Jon Butler wrote:
>> There will be a need for assembler programmers for quite a while, but mainly 
>> because over the last forty years, and long after even COBOL II added 
>> functions and a case construction in 1987, very, very  clever people decided 
>> they would write application modules in assembler... and not waste time with 
>> comments.  Today, when companies are trying to make their systems Highly 
>> Available...or even convert to a cloud provider's service...no one has a 
>> clue what the modules do.  Many could have been easily replaced by COBOL's 
>> ADDRESS OF or LENGTH OF or PL/I Pointers, but of course that would have been 
>> way too easy.  Very few application programs need to control channels.
>>
>> When I was interviewed by the Db2 Utilities group at the Santa Teresa lab in 
>> San Jose (Now Silicon Valley) in 2001, I said I suppose I needed to brush up 
>> on my assembler.  They laughed and said "no one uses assembler any more."  
>> All the Utilities were written in PL/S, now PL/X.
>>
>> Not to denigrate assembler programmers, or those that decide to take up 
>> Sanskrit, but it is a dying art.
>>
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