Shocking, LexisNexis is over 200 years old and is designed specifically for legal purposes. ChatGPT is less than a year old and isn’t designed (yet) for the legal profession.
Good choice picking the LexisNexis one. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 8:48 AM, Dean Kent <[email protected]> wrote: Which brings up another 'interesting' anecdote. I used chatGPT to 'write' a set of bylaws for a new non-profit for a youth sports club. I asked it over a dozen times with different wording, and it came back with a wide variety of results - some that were long and included many sections, and others that were short and included only what might be considered 'necessary' sections. I have a friend who is an attorney, and he sent me the template that LexisNexis provides. It had a lot more content, some which the IRS now indicates is 'preferred' or even required. So I ended up using the template since I could just remove or ignore sections that weren't pertinent. The template also had a variety of options (variables, if you will) for wording depending on, for example, if the corporation has a CEO or President and whether board officers can also be corporate executives, etc. That caused me to make the decision that I would not consider using chatGPT for creating legal documents. Again, YMMV. On 9/5/2023 12:27 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: > And so we can now understand that when a paralegal or newly minted > attorney uses it to find case law for points and authorities, it will > will make them up to match what was being searched for when it > prepares a motion it was asked for using the results of the search. > > And some attorneys got a judge quite angry with them when they didn't > tell the court this, but the opposing council pointed out they could > not find any such case listed in the pleadings/motion. Then the > judge's people also could not find same.... This is the kind of thing > that concerns me about AI today. Once it has been taught enough to > learn on its own.... > > Steve Thompson > > On 9/5/2023 12:46 PM, Dean Kent wrote: >> I spent a bit of time playing with chatGPT to see what it could do. >> So did my two sons - one an MS in biotech, the other a PhD in >> theoretical physics. We all came to the same conclusion - chatGPT >> is a very, very good Google search that can filter many different >> possible 'answers' and come to one that is 'most likely' based on >> various factors. It has little to no creativity or understanding of >> what it is asked to do. Not surprising, but different than what the >> popular press seems to say about it. >> >> One of my questions was to write a simple sort routine in HLASM. It >> came back with a template containing the entry/exit code, and then a >> comment *insert sort routine here*. After doing that with many >> different simple tasks, I came to the conclusion that the problem >> chatGPT has with assembler (but not with C, Python, Java, etc.) is >> that there are so few searchable examples of code in assembler. So >> the quality of the results, for any question, depends upon what >> exists out on the Internet. Again, not surprising. >> >> As another example, I have an interest in what is called 'historical >> analysis'. There are a number of books on the subject, so I asked >> chatGPT to compare/contrast two of the books. Then two other books, >> etc. In literally every case it came back with the same >> introductory text and conclusion - but inserted a couple of >> paragraphs that was similar to a book review for each book and >> compared the 'differences'. Not very impressed. >> >> My PhD son uses it to find obscure hypotheses and formulas that would >> otherwise require a great many hours (or days) of searching. My MS >> son uses it in a similar fashion to ferret out alternative options >> for the various cell growing and protein extraction for his job. A >> very useful tool, but not yet SkyNet... >> >> YMMV. >> >> On 9/5/2023 9:36 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: >>> We are all retired. The other 2 went before me. I went in July 2022. >>> You’re an idiot regardless. What are you afraid of? That a computer >>> can do what you do? That your “skills” aren’t all that impressive >>> and can be automated away? >>> >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:25 PM, David Spiegel >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> I have a better idea. >>> Why don't you and the 2 buddies who helped you modify the IEFUSI fix >>> it? >>> Probably because you don't have the wherewithal (even with 2 helpers). >>> >>> Regards, >>> David >>> >>> On 2023-09-05 12:04, Bill Johnson wrote: >>>> Lol, how about going to chatgpt and asking the same question. So >>>> that cut and paste isn’t a factor. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:02 PM, David Spiegel >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Steve, >>>> It won't. The first executable statement is missing a comma between >>>> operands. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> David >>>> >>>> On 2023-09-05 11:43, Steve Thompson wrote: >>>>> I doubt it will assemble. And even if it does, the results are >>>>> unpredictable, other than it will probably ABEND for one reason or >>>>> another. >>>>> >>>>> There are no DCB, OPEN, CLOSE macros while GET and PUT are being >>>>> used. >>>>> >>>>> Me thinks this AI system is confusing a few different assembly >>>>> languages together. I wonder how close they came for DOS I/O. >>>>> Steve Thompson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/5/2023 11:20 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: >>>>>> You're right, Tom. That is not a program. Certainly not one that >>>>>> will >>>>>> do what it claims to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Tom Marchant On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:42:51 -0700, Tom Brennan >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> I can't be sure I formatted it properly, but after looking over the >>>>>>> code, I have nothing to say but WTF? 😄 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PRINT NOGEN >>>>>>> TITLE 'Simple Addition Program' >>>>>>> ** Define storage for input numbers and result >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> NUM1 DS F First input number >>>>>>> NUM2 DS F Second input number >>>>>>> RESULT DS F Result of addition >>>>>>> ** Main program >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> MAIN C 0 NUM1 Check if NUM1 is zero >>>>>>> BE ZERO Branch to ZERO if true >>>>>>> ** Read the first number from input >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> GET NUM1,NUMIN Read NUM1 from input >>>>>>> LA 0,NUM1 Load NUM1 into register >>>>>>> ** Read the second number from input >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> GET NUM2,NUMIN Read NUM2 from input >>>>>>> A NUM1,NUM2 Add NUM1 and NUM2 >>>>>>> ST NUM1,RESULT Store the result in RESULT >>>>>>> ** Print the result >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> PUT RESULT,NUMOUT Print the result >>>>>>> ** Terminate the program >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> SR 15,15 Set return code to 0 >>>>>>> BR 14 Return to caller >>>>>>> ** Define input and output areas >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> NUMIN DC F'0' Input buffer for numbers >>>>>>> NUMOUT DC F'0' Output buffer for result >>>>>>> ZERO DC F'0' Constant zero >>>>>>> END MAIN End of program >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>>>> send email [email protected] with the message: INFO >>>>>> IBM-MAIN >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO >>>>> IBM-MAIN >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
