Good god, man.
You spectacularly botched your original proposal. That should have been the
end of it. Instead, we all have to suffer through your inability not to have
the last word. Or indeed thousand words. That's cruel & unusual collective
punishment, that is.
To protect you from furthe
Hi,
Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Taylan,
>
> You have been asked repeatedly to stop and yet, you just reiterated what
> we know has already proven to be hurtful. That’s enough.
I agree. Let's put an end to this and related threads that don't
further our project in any positive way. The Guix mai
Taylan,
You have been asked repeatedly to stop and yet, you just reiterated what
we know has already proven to be hurtful. That’s enough.
Some things are indeed not up for debate, and the spirit of the code of
conduct is one of them. As I return from vacation, I see that long
thread that immedi
Taylan,
You asked me to take the time to explain the hurt you caused, and I did.
I spent a whole day on it. It was not easy. In response you provided a
long justification backing up the very thing you were asked not to do,
the very thing identified as causing this much hurt.
But you've made it,
Just to keep it clear, Taylan,
You didn't in any case listen to what I actually said which
was that you are forcing us to have this debate. You don't
care if we want or we don't.
I don't want to have this discussion and you are still
pushing.
I never said you were wrong or not, just wanted you t
Hi Christine & co.,
This will be my last mail on this topic. It's addressed to everyone.
Thank you for putting so much time into your response. I'm responding
late because I had too much anxiety to open my mail client, and it looks
like my gut feeling was not wrong.
I'm sad to say that I have
Okay. Now a longer reply. I am taking a substantial portion of my day
to do this. I think there is a lot more going on here than even appears
at the surface. So I have re-read everything that has been said so far
and am doing my best to take care in what I write here. I hope it's of
some great
Thank you for this response and for sharing some of your own experiences. I
just want to address this issue:
>The key reason the thread / my mails have caused hurt seems to be that
>they've come across as an attempt to debate transgender experiences.
>What I've not been able to understand is how t
I'll just add my five cents here and leave the conversation:
> Reading over my mails, I just don't understand why they might have been
> misunderstood so badly. If you could shed some light on that, I would be
> very grateful! It would certainly help me avoid mistakes in the future,
> if I were to
Taylan, thank you for the thoughtful response and to listening to what I
said. It's too close to bedtime for me to be able to respond
coherently, but I will do so tomorrow. Just wanted to leave this hear
in the meanwhile so it was clear you were heard.
- Christine
Taylan Kammer writes:
> Hi
Hi Christine,
Thank you for opening up. It was definitely not apparent to me that you
had such a reaction to the thread. As we know, text doesn't convey the
nuances of human communication very well, and I had read your initial
emails as rather relaxed, or at worst mildly annoyed. Had I realized
Hello! I am Morgan Lemmer-Webber, a cis-gendered woman who is a guix user
(though not a developer). I have been an active member of the FOSS world,
am co-host of a FOSS podcast, and overall have had delightful interactions
with the guix community. As Christine said, I do also have a PhD in Art
Hist
Taylan, I respect you and your work. I don't think you realize how much
hurt you've caused here, and I want to take your contributions at good
faith. But this has continued for days and it has definitely hurt a
lot.
I just got out of a presentation that I've been in crunchmode preparing
for all
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