Re: Re: Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Bjarni Runar Einarsson
Hi Simon, thanks for the comments. Simon Ward wrote: > > I currently use Thunderbird and Mutt, both of which can open "emails > within emails" as MIME parts, but I'm fairly certain Outlook from Office > 2002 coped with them too. Granted, it's still an extra step with those > MUAs, but all they n

Re: Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Simon Ward
On 24 November 2014 19:45:33 GMT+00:00, I wrote: >On 24 November 2014 12:44:31 GMT+00:00, Bjarni Runar Einarsson > wrote: >>> Wrap in a message/rfc822 part. >> >>If PGP/MIME had proposed this from the start, then I wouldn't be able >>to >>make cheap shots about Subject lines and indeed, living wi

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/24/2014 03:37 PM, Hugo Hinterberger wrote: > Hi, Hi Hugo, ... > I am still not able to load (receive) keys from key servers. On > the command line I get the error "keyserver receive failed: No > keyserver available". in GPA I get the warning

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Hugo Hinterberger
Hi, On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:24:28 +0100, Werner Koch wrote: GnuPG changes in 2.1.1-beta35 I noticed that for malformed PGP messages there is no notification of the user in GPA. When verifying a malformed PGP message an empty verification result windows is shown (see attached image). *

Re: Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Simon Ward
On 24 November 2014 12:44:31 GMT+00:00, Bjarni Runar Einarsson wrote: >> Wrap in a message/rfc822 part. > >If PGP/MIME had proposed this from the start, then I wouldn't be able >to >make cheap shots about Subject lines and indeed, living with the other >problems would be far more palatable. > >

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:39, patr...@enigmail.net said: > All fixed indeed! I created the first GnuPG build that did not require a > single patch on OS X :-) Yeah! Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. _

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:22, jo...@netpage.dk said: > I cannot get it to work with my OpenPGP card. > The card works fine with GPG 2.0 > If I try anything needing a secret key, it just outputs "No > secret key" This is known. As a worrkaround use gpg-connect-agent learn /bye Salam-Shalom,

Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Bjarni Runar Einarsson wrote: > Of course, today encryption is so rare that the only folks encountering > this problem are nontechnical people, journalists and activists and the > like, and they just give up and us something else to communicate

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-24 Thread Mirimir
On 11/24/2014 09:57 AM, michaelquig...@theway.org wrote: > MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> wrote on 11/22/2014 > 04:16:38 PM: > >> From: MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> >> To: "michaelquig...@theway.org on GnuPG-Users" >> Cc: "michaelquig...@theway.org" >> Date: 11

Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensless?

2014-11-24 Thread MichaelQuigley
MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> wrote on 11/22/2014 04:16:38 PM: > From: MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> > To: "michaelquig...@theway.org on GnuPG-Users" > Cc: "michaelquig...@theway.org" > Date: 11/22/2014 04:16 PM > Subject: Re: Encryption on Mailing lists sensle

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 24.11.14 09:24, Werner Koch wrote: [...] > > GnuPG changes in 2.1.1-beta35 > - > [...] > * Fixed build problems on Mac OS X All fixed indeed! I created the first GnuPG build that did not require a single patch on OS X :-) -Patrick ___

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Josef Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I cannot get it to work with my OpenPGP card. The card works fine with GPG 2.0 If I try anything needing a secret key, it just outputs "No secret key" D:\>gpg --detach-sign barstick.rar gpg: NOTE: THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT VERSION! gpg: It is only

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread K. Raven
Hi Kristian, > I reproduced this on a VM running $ gpg --version > gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.1-beta40 > libgcrypt 1.7.0-beta122 I have tried it with gpg --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.1-beta35 libgcrypt 1.6.2 and had no problems: gpg: sende Schlüssel 0x5A1796454623BA84 auf den hkps-Server hkps.pool.sks-keyse

Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 14:12:48 +0100, Werner Koch stated: > To be fair, that changed with Outlook 2010. We merely had not the > resources to change GpgOL to make use of the new Outlook structure. Interesting; has there been any movement on that front? I use Outlook 2013 at my office and that would

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/24/2014 04:01 PM, Werner Koch wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:03, > kristian.fiskerstr...@sumptuouscapital.com said: > >> I reproduced this on a VM running $ gpg --version gpg (GnuPG) >> 2.1.1-beta40 libgcrypt 1.7.0-beta122 > > Are you using

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:03, kristian.fiskerstr...@sumptuouscapital.com said: > I reproduced this on a VM running $ gpg --version > gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.1-beta40 > libgcrypt 1.7.0-beta122 Are you using libgpg-error 1.15 ? That one has a bug commit c307e1f801cd9a25c4a5b9a90073362219d52ee6 Author: W

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/24/2014 01:43 PM, Werner Koch wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:55, > kristian.fiskerstr...@sumptuouscapital.com said: > >> Is this limited to GPA? I seem to also encounter issues directly >> from CLI to this effect. > ... > $ grep zimmerman

Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:25, b...@pagekite.net said: > installed, because if you download the raw encrypted payload for > processing offline, then after decryption you end up with a fragment of > MIME and tools for working with such fragments barely exist outside the > world of development tools (do

Re: Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Bjarni Runar Einarsson
Hi Werner! Werner Koch wrote: > Hi Bjarni, > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:12, b...@pagekite.net said: > > > https://www.mailpile.is/blog/2014-11-21_To_PGP_MIME_Or_Not.html > > Not read (yet). > > > The "tl;dr" is that it might be worth dropping PGP/MIME for outgoing > > encrypted mail and instead

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:55, kristian.fiskerstr...@sumptuouscapital.com said: > Is this limited to GPA? I seem to also encounter issues directly from > CLI to this effect. Yes. The thing is that GPA makes direct use of the gpgkeys_foo helpers and bypasses gpg for keyserver access. Now with 2.1 we

Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
Hi Bjarni, On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:12, b...@pagekite.net said: > https://www.mailpile.is/blog/2014-11-21_To_PGP_MIME_Or_Not.html Not read (yet). > The "tl;dr" is that it might be worth dropping PGP/MIME for outgoing > encrypted mail and instead use a more ad-hoc approach which Please don't do t

Re: GnuPG 2.1.0 "modern" released

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:30, aixto...@gmail.com said: > However, configure is reporting - in config.log that AIX does not have > libiconv - which it does. So, my question is: to which gnu tool should I Well, the code does not detect it or it is not usable. The latter should be reported. The detec

Re: Error message "Ohhhh jeeee: ... this is a bug"

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:12, 2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net said: > I do not have the key in a newer format, and have not yet investigated > whether there is any useful way to achieve this. I understand it is No, you can't convert the key to v4 format. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die

Re: GnuPG 2.1.0 "modern" released

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:46, aixto...@gmail.com said: > Same question: who to submit bug too? http://bugs.gnupg.org but posting here is also okay. > "../src/mpi.h", line 292.16: 1506-343 (S) Redeclaration of > _gcry_mpi_ec_set_mpi differs from previous declaration on line 423 of > "../src/gcrypt-in

Re: Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Bjarni Runar Einarsson
Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > thanks for working on Free Software and for discussing questions > like this in the open! And thank you for the friendly reply. :-) > The short answer (from someone that was in the project team of S/MIME > implementations for mutt and kmail and support

Re: Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/24/2014 09:24 AM, Werner Koch wrote: > Hi, > > mainly to test the fixes to the Windows installer, I did a quick > beta last Friday. However, while testing it I found that in GPA > the export of keys to the keyserver does still not work. Inst

Re: Pros and cons of PGP/MIME for outgoing e-mail?

2014-11-24 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Bjarni, On Sunday 23 November 2014 at 14:12:47, Bjarni Runar Einarsson wrote: > https://www.mailpile.is/blog/2014-11-21_To_PGP_MIME_Or_Not.html thanks for working on Free Software and for discussing questions like this in the open! > Note that we already support incoming PGP/MIME and have no in

Beta for 2.1.1 available

2014-11-24 Thread Werner Koch
Hi, mainly to test the fixes to the Windows installer, I did a quick beta last Friday. However, while testing it I found that in GPA the export of keys to the keyserver does still not work. Instead of delaying a test release even more I have published that installer anyway. Thus most things sho