Hi Simon, thanks for the comments. Simon Ward <si...@bleah.co.uk> wrote: > > I currently use Thunderbird and Mutt, both of which can open "emails > within emails" as MIME parts, but I'm fairly certain Outlook from Office > 2002 coped with them too. Granted, it's still an extra step with those > MUAs, but all they need to do is handle MIME, which is a container just > as much as Zip is. Why introduce Zip as yet another container, and yet > another thing for diverse MUAs to handle instead of using one that many > MTAs already support?
The reasons I don't want to put the text part in a container at all, but am willing to consider doing so for attachments are as follows: 1. Mail clients have user interfaces that are at least somewhat optimized for conversations, like the one we are having now. Moving the text part into a container (rfc2822 or otherwise) breaks that flow for everyone. 2. For attachments, that flow is less entrenched. Granted, many MUAs will open an application when you click on an attachment, but others will save to disk, still others will offer a choice. Adding an extra step here (interacting with the container) is off the critical path of how the mail client is most often used. It is still an extra step though, and extra code to write in the MUA, which is one of the reasons I not sure about the merits of using a container at all. Note that if the container is a ZIP file, that will work without extra tools on all modern OSes (if I recall, I need to double-check a fresh Windows install), but that is certainly not true for RFC2822 or tar (which was suggested on the Hacker News thread about my blog post). Using RFC2822 will work if you have a nice desktop mail client, but if you do, then you also have (the option of) PGP/MIME support and are not the user I am trying to help with this proposal. As stated in my post - my proposal makes life marginally worse for people with PGP/MIME compliant MUAs (working with attachments becomes less fun), but better for everyone else. I haven't come up with a way around that yet, short of shipping 2 of everything in each message. :-) Cheers! - Bjarni -- I make stuff: www.mailpile.is, www.pagekite.net
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