Re: Changing the email address of a key

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/08/12 21:54, Richi Lists wrote: > Will this also write also to the smart-card or are the changes only in > the local keyring? UIDs are not stored on the smartcard, so it does not matter. > I'm a bit hesitant because the full disk encryption on my netbook works > also with the same key, and

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

2012-08-28 Thread mercuryrising
I meant to say IPADs not IPODSProcopius Sent using Hushmail On August 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, mercuryris...@hush.ai wrote:Thank you both for replying to my question about IPODs and Androids. It sounds like neither will work to be fully functional with gnupg or pgp then. Perhaps I should get a small

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Landon Hurley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/28/2012 08:01 PM, MFPA wrote: > Hi > > > On Saturday 25 August 2012 at 2:59:57 AM, in > , Faramir wrote: > > >>IMHO, the main trouble probably is people don't feel >> the need to protect their privacy. > > So why do they use envelopes

Re: if you have something to hide, please step aside...?

2012-08-28 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Sunday 26 August 2012 at 8:30:57 AM, in , peter.segm...@wronghead.com wrote: > pushing the > boundary of what is and what isn't "constitutional and > democratic" (and it is a very soft boundary, depending > perhaps only on the depth of one'

Re: On PKI

2012-08-28 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Wednesday 29 August 2012 at 12:00:34 AM, in , No such Client wrote: > On PKI, I fear that the property of it being so > decentralized, and relatively free, is the same reason > why it does not have wider adoption. It is not a > centralized

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Saturday 25 August 2012 at 2:59:57 AM, in , Faramir wrote: >IMHO, the main trouble probably is people don't feel > the need to protect their privacy. So why do they use envelopes rather than postcards, and keep secret the PIN for their

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 28 August 2012 at 4:06:41 PM, in , No such Client wrote: > Granted. However if I used a real name instead of a > pseudonym, would that make people ¨feel¨ better? If you had picked a pseudonym that looked like a real name, nobody wo

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

2012-08-28 Thread Landon Hurley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 APG functions on android remarkably well, with key servers and key generation features. The only thing missing that comes to mind is the WOT side. As long as this is between friends, that becomes relatively unnecessary. Also possible is to just impor

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Stan Tobias
For lack of time, I have to be brief; I just answer the most important points. "Mark H. Wood" wrote: > I use encryption to enforce the privacy I already (should) have. I answered this in my post to Faramir, several minutes ago. > So, yes, it's a weapon. I call it a weapon, because it does

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

2012-08-28 Thread mercuryrising
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you both for replying to my question about IPODs and Androids. It sounds like neither will work to be fully functional with gnupg or pgp then. Perhaps I should get a small laptop computer. I wonder if one of those small driveless computers

On PKI

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On PKI, I fear that the property of it being so decentralized, and relatively free, is the same reason why it does not have wider adoption. It is not a centralized product, nor is trust maintained by any government / private institutions (banks, clerks, notaries, etc ) to prove identity. So, thus..

Re: On PKI

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
An addendum, is the component that is neccesary for 4gw. Netwar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netwar signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Stan Tobias
For the lack of time, I'll be very brief. I plan to answer Robert Hansen's post, but I yet need to find a couple of free hours for that. Faramir wrote: > What would happen if you start reading your daughter's diary > everyday, but never let anybody catch you reading it? And you are > careful

Re: Changing the email address of a key

2012-08-28 Thread Richi Lists
Will this also write also to the smart-card or are the changes only in the local keyring? I'm a bit hesitant because the full disk encryption on my netbook works also with the same key, and I don't want to reinstall the whole thing. Rgds Richard On Di, 2012-08-28 at 10:49 +0200, Peter Lebbing wro

Re: Signing eMails doesn't work anymore

2012-08-28 Thread Richi Lists
Hi Werner, the ! exclamation mark did the trick! I tried specifying the subkey I wanted before, but only the exclamation mark makes it work. With the exclamation mark, also signing in evolution works again. Is this documented somewhere? Thanks a lot. Richard On Di, 2012-08-28 at 10:47 +0200, W

Re: Pseudonym (was Re: what is killing PKI?)

2012-08-28 Thread Robert J. Hansen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I haven't responded to any of No Such Client's emails yet, on account of them not being constructive. This email is constructive, though, so here goes. > With due respect Mr Lebbing, my initial post - was in response to > Mr. Hansen´s post which

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:37:01PM +0200, Stan Tobias wrote: [snip] > What I mean to say above, is that weapons are anti-social, they don't > build trust; and there are better means, other than guns, to maintain > peace. Encryption is a weapon. I believe there are many valid reasons > to use it,

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On 08/28/2012 04:56 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 28.08.2012, No such Client wrote: > > >> I simply chose to keep my name private. Surely, on a public, crypto >> mailing-list, with all sorts of interesting people, the idea of >> privacy >> would be understood no? real names or pseudonyms should

Re: Pseudonym (was Re: what is killing PKI?)

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On 08/28/2012 03:55 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 28/08/12 15:44, No such Client wrote: > >> Surely, on a public, crypto mailing-list, with all sorts of interesting >> people, the idea of privacy would be understood no? real names or pseudonyms >> should be quite irrelevant.. Is it not the con

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On 08/28/2012 04:01 PM, Hubert Kario wrote: > On Tuesday 28 of August 2012 15:44:53 No such Client wrote: > >> Is it not the content that counts? >> > Yes, but if the content is controversive and with debatable argumentation > then > only your credentials remain -- the recognition of your

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Hubert Kario
On Tuesday 28 of August 2012 15:44:53 No such Client wrote: > Is it not the content that counts? Yes, but if the content is controversive and with debatable argumentation then only your credentials remain -- the recognition of your name. Which you have none at the moment. Don't take it personal

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 28.08.2012, No such Client wrote: > I simply chose to keep my name private. Surely, on a public, crypto > mailing-list, with all sorts of interesting people, the idea of > privacy > would be understood no? real names or pseudonyms should be quite > irrelevant.. Is it not the content that coun

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On 08/28/2012 03:48 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 28/08/12 15:37, No such Client wrote: > >> smut? You imply that I speak in a perverse or sexual manner? Hardly. >> > I didn't want to actually quote the insulting stuff, but let me quote > nonetheless: > > >> your own bed, and the chance

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

2012-08-28 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 28.08.2012 07:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai kirjoitti: > Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public keys and > use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac OSX and > Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms? >

Re: Changing the email address of a key

2012-08-28 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, 27.08.2012 23:59, Richard Ulrich kirjoitti: > When I generated my new private key, I used one of my email > addresses. This email address is stored both on the crypto stick > (smart card) and in the secring.gpg or pubring.gpg, probably both. >

Pseudonym (was Re: what is killing PKI?)

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/08/12 15:44, No such Client wrote: > Surely, on a public, crypto mailing-list, with all sorts of interesting > people, the idea of privacy would be understood no? real names or pseudonyms > should be quite irrelevant.. Is it not the content that counts? Yes, it indeed is the content that c

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/08/12 15:37, No such Client wrote: > smut? You imply that I speak in a perverse or sexual manner? Hardly. I didn't want to actually quote the insulting stuff, but let me quote nonetheless: > your own bed, and the chance to make many new friends (note that this is easily read, and probably

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On 08/28/2012 02:31 PM, Hubert Kario wrote: > > The fact that you've just showed up on The list makes this e-mail and > pseudonym disposable, not the fact you're using a pseudonym or gmail. > > Besides, gmail is very much disposable. It's not like you have to provide > your > name, surname and I

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread No such Client
On 08/28/2012 10:28 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 28/08/12 08:57, No such Client wrote: > >> # A good Daddy is discreet. :-) >> > (Etcetera...) > > Please take your smut elsewhere. I'm sure you know people who will laugh; tell > it to them. Not here. > > Peter. > > smut? You imply that I

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

2012-08-28 Thread gnupg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 28/08/12 05:48, mercuryris...@hush.ai wrote: > Can IPAD or ANDROID TABLETS create gnupgp private/public keys and > use gnupg or is that still relegated to Windows/Vista, Mac OSX and > Linux on desktop and laptop/notebook computer platforms? I us

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Hubert Kario
On Tuesday 28 of August 2012 01:44:54 No such Client wrote: > Sir Hansen: > Well, pseudonyms do not make my words less valid. I am not one of the > gpg-using advocates, who has to be open, and forthcoming with all to > make a point. A pseudonym is well within my rights. You simply don´t > need to

Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric in group use

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/08/12 08:37, peter.segm...@wronghead.com wrote: > break: RNG, asymmetric and symmetric cipher, while the symmetric > has only one: symmetric cipher. When using OpenPGP, add RNG back to the list: the passphrase is only used to encrypt the randomly generated session key that encrypts the data.

symmetric vs. asymmetric in group use

2012-08-28 Thread peter . segment
On 28/08/12 01:54, No such Client - nosuchcli...@gmail.com wrote: If you are restricting heavily the people you share your public key with, why not simply use a symmetric algorithm, forgetting public key cryptography completely? > Uhh. because the benefit of pubkey encryption is still there, mi

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 12:29, d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk said: > e.g. by having two MS code signing keys, one owned by MS the other by > the NSA. Or more realistic, one issued by the government of Freedonia or Sylvania (insert your favorite country here - enough of them are accepted as root CAs). Sal

Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread David Chadwick
That tool is encryption, and it doesn't only enforce our privacy right, it also make us aware about people trying to take away that right from us, because the one trying to take away that right, first would have to take away our right to use encryption, or force us to install some backdoor on

Re: Signing eMails doesn't work anymore

2012-08-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:57, ricu...@gmail.com said: > #gpg --sign setup_my_system.sh > gpg: sending command `SCD PKSIGN' to agent failed: ec=6.18 The error is: $ gpg-error 6.18 100663314 = (6, 18) = [...] = (SCD, Wrong secret key used) The scdaemon would have printed this to its log file:

Re: Changing the email address of a key

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/08/12 10:37, Werner Koch wrote: > gpg --edit-key YOURKEYID > > addkey > > # Now follow the prompts Surely, Werner meant "adduid" which adds a new e-mail address, and not "addkey" which adds a new subkey. HTH, Peter. -- I use the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) in combination with Enigmai

Re: Changing the email address of a key

2012-08-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:57, pa...@cs.hmc.edu said: > You can add or delete the names and emails associated with a key using > gpg --edit-key and the adduid and deluid commands, respectively. You may use "deluid" only if you never published your public key. The better choice is "revuid". Thus if

[admin] Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Werner Koch
Hi, please take some time to quote messages in a way which allows to read them quickly. Your current style is very hard to parse. In particular: - Strip quotes to a few lines. Quoteshall only provide context but not repeat everything. - Put an empty lines before your reply. - Put an empt

Re: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg

2012-08-28 Thread Sin Trenton
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Re: what is killing PKI?

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/08/12 08:57, No such Client wrote: > # A good Daddy is discreet. :-) (Etcetera...) Please take your smut elsewhere. I'm sure you know people who will laugh; tell it to them. Not here. Peter. -- I use the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) in combination with Enigmail. You can send me encrypted ma

Re: Gnupg-users Digest, Vol 107, Issue 24

2012-08-28 Thread Sin Trenton
On 2012-08-28 08:52, gnupg-users-requ...@gnupg.org wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:48:54 -0700 > From: mercuryris...@hush.ai > To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org > Subject: Can IPAD or Android Tablets create Keys and use gnupg > Message-ID: <20120828044854.d505010e...@smtp.hushmail.com> > C