Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

2011-04-03 Thread Indi
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:20:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: >On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote: > >> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone >else > >> on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware >worked > >

Re: [gentoo-user] non-Twinview dual screen setup?

2011-04-05 Thread Indi
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 01:40:02AM +0200, Jacob Todd wrote: >I've uswd xinerama and dwm on my thinkpad w510 and 42" tv without >problems. I have no idea if kde supports xinerama stilL My thinkpad is often connected to an external monitor to create a single 2800x1050 space. Not using xiner

Re: [gentoo-user] how to match kernel and udev/lvm2 ?

2011-04-05 Thread Indi
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 02:10:02AM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:36:08 -0300, Gregory Fontenele wrote: > > > want to leave this list but I can not > > Here's how to unsubscribe: > > First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. > Then follow these dire

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure wlan0 route metric

2011-04-13 Thread Indi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:50:02PM +0200, deadeyes wrote: > > I was searching around the gentoo forums for ifmetric and found this piece of > code that can be added in /etc/conf.d/net: > postup() { >local metric=0 > >case "${IFACE}" in > eth0) metric=0 ;; > eth1) metric=1 ;; >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure wlan0 route metric

2011-04-13 Thread Indi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 06:10:05PM +0200, Mick wrote: > On 13 April 2011 16:35, Indi wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:50:02PM +0200, deadeyes wrote: > >> > >> I was searching around the gentoo forums for ifmetric and found this piece > >> of > >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure wlan0 route metric

2011-04-13 Thread Indi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:10:01PM +0200, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 13 April 2011 18:07:30 Indi wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 06:10:05PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > > On 13 April 2011 16:35, Indi wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:50:02PM +0200, deadeyes w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure wlan0 route metric

2011-04-14 Thread Indi
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:00:02PM +0200, Mick wrote: > On 14 April 2011 09:13, deadeyes wrote: > > deadeyes gmail.com> writes: > > > > code that can be added in /etc/conf.d/net: > > postup() { > >   local metric=0 > > > >   case "${IFACE}" in > >      eth0) metric=0 ;; > >      eth1) metric=1 ;;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure wlan0 route metric

2011-04-14 Thread Indi
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:30:02AM +0200, Indi wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:00:02PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > On 14 April 2011 09:13, deadeyes wrote: > > > deadeyes gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > code that can be added in /etc/conf.d/net:

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the /dev/* entry for my DVD drive?

2011-04-15 Thread Indi
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:10:02AM +0200, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, gentoo. > > I want to mount a CD rom in my SATA DVD drive. Having inserted the CD > into the drive, I can't find an entry in /dev for it. I know the drive > and the CD are working, because I installed my system using them. :-

Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp rewriting "From:" in emails...

2011-04-24 Thread Indi
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Jarry wrote: > > btw, I find /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf a little confusing: > > # Set this to never rewrite the "From:" line (unless not given) and to > # use that address in the "from line" of the envelope. > #FromLineOverride=YES > > I always thought if a v

[gentoo-user] mplayer directfb permissions?

2011-04-25 Thread Indi
Greetings, My old thinkpad is showing its age lately, especially when using mplayer to play avi or mkv files. Fooling around with various options and config arguments has revealed that using the directfb for vo gives sterling results, with the worst files playing happily in sync just like I al

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer directfb permissions?

2011-04-25 Thread Indi
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:50:01PM +0200, Indi wrote: > > ...using the directfb for vo gives > sterling results, with the worst files playing happily in sync just like > I always dreamed -- but only as root! > > Obviously there's a permissions issue somewhere... Oh jee

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer directfb permissions?

2011-04-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:30:02AM +0200, Mick wrote: > On Monday 25 April 2011 23:38:04 Indi wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:50:01PM +0200, Indi wrote: > > > ...using the directfb for vo gives > > > sterling results, with the worst files playing happily in sy

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

2011-04-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 07:00:01PM +0200, Dale wrote: > Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > > I'm not a doctor but it's probably perfectly safe. > > > > > > I'd copy my world file to my root directory just in case tho. At least > you got a starting point if something did get froggy. > > That's ju

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer directfb permissions?

2011-04-26 Thread Indi
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 09:10:02PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > Are you running KMS in the kernel and have you emerged x11-drivers/radeon- > ucode (not sure if your card needs it) as per: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml > No. I have a pretty straight kernel, and my video card specifie

Re: [gentoo-user] HAL or UDEV...

2011-05-02 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:20:03PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > Carlos Sura writes: > > > I just have one question, reciently I read in a forum that HAL might be > > deprecated on Gentoo, so, I started using UDEV: > > > > USE=" -hal udev" > > > > But, then I have this problem, updating xorg-se

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge stopped working

2011-05-02 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:50:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Never blindly accept what depclean says and let it do it's thing. Study the > output, the warning printed on the screen to do just that is there for a > reason. > > Never blindly update protected config files with etc-update

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Tether a Google Nexus One?

2011-05-04 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:00:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:19 on Tuesday 03 May 2011, Neil Bothwick > did opine thusly: > > > On Tue, 3 May 2011 13:21:06 -0700, Grant wrote: > > > There is a tethering option in the Nexus One settings but I can't > > > figu

Re: [gentoo-user] QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths

2011-05-06 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:50:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011 12:34:29 -0400, Kevin McCarthy wrote: > > > [application/pgp-signature (490 bytes)] > > Kevin, can you upload your PGP/GPG key to a public keyserver, otherwise > the only point of signing your mails is to cause m

Re: [gentoo-user] QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths

2011-05-06 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 02:10:01AM +0200, Indi wrote: > > Speaking of that, I always get that notice "the PGP signature could > not be verified" on your mails, Neil. > Never mind, sorry -- that was my configuration needed updating. -- caveat utilitor

Re: [gentoo-user] QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths

2011-05-09 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 07 May 2011 01:40:54 Indi wrote: > > On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 02:10:01AM +0200, Indi wrote: > > > Speaking of that, I always get that notice "the PGP signature could > > > not be verified" on

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-10 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:20:02AM +0200, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Dale wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I was curious, what's the results of the openrc update for people that have > > done theirs?  Is it pretty simple and "just works" or are there issues?  I'm > > mostly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 04:50:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It uses hardly any cpu at all, regardless of what the naysayers say. > Well, add me to the "naysayers" list then, because my experience directly contradicts that statement. Much happier with fluxbox, completely finished fooling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 06:00:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 17:06 on Wednesday 11 May 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > I still don't understand why the kde folks went from something that > > worked extremely well to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:00:01PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2011 20:40:02 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > KDE devs decided to take the risk and make the jump ahead of the > > > curve. > > > > Coca Cola went from Coke Classic to New Coke; at least they had the > > guts to

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: > > 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ > > huh? > It surely does look cool though, wish I could read and write in such a picturesque manner. :) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe > > support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say > > "nothing". > > > > It's not a question of "should", it's onl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:54:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > I just hope they also learned from their mistakes. Dropping KDE3 > > support long before KDE4 was ready was a big one. That shouldn't be > > repeated. > > If it's as good as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in 2009. > > Now I have zero. It was a harrowing time, switching

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:00:02PM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 12 May 2011 14:00:16 Dale wrote: > > > Hindsight. 20/20 as always. LOL I just wish my eyes was. > > What? In the back of your head? :) > My hair hides the eyes in the back of my head (and hides my horns, too). -

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:50:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6 seems to > have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility > prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've never instal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:10:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 17:06 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:30:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine > thusly: > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see su

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:50:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:19 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > You might be correct, but I very much doubt it. > > I will say though that it's almost a certainty > > t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:30:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > On 05/12/2011 07:00 AM, Indi wrote: > > ...It was a harrowing time, switching > > everyone to gnome, finding that is not so hot... > > Just curious: what sort of complaints did you get about gnome? Oh to be hones

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 02:20:01AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/12 17:03 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > > > On 2011/05/12 16:41 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: > > Since I'm familiar and happy with mirrors.us.kernel.org performance, I might > rather use that,

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 03:40:01AM +0200, 刘勇泰 wrote: >2011/5/12 Thanasis <[1]thana...@asyr.hopto.org> > > on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: > >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Thursday

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:50:03AM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:51:32 -0400, Indi wrote: > > > > If it's as good as everyone says, what more support did it need? Did > > > the KDE guys come knocking on your door to remove it, or do it > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:40:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > >>>> On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: > >>>>> 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ > > Are saying that mutt is displaying Chinese characters in a terminal > window? Yes, it works in X (terminator) but so far I haven't g

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:10:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > Yesterday I attempted my first Gentoo install (11.0). Thanks to help here, I > got through my mirrorselect problem. First boot failed. I managed to miss > enabling VIA ATA support, so had no access to /. Second kernel build > suceede

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer id3v2

2011-05-13 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 04:40:01AM +0200, Andrey Moshbear wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:21, Paul Hartman > wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Andrey Moshbear > > wrote: > >> Is there a patch for mplayer (1.0-rc4) that adds id3v2 support? > >> Googling the mailinglist archives, it

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata > did > opine thusly: > > > > > Is it telling me I have to change my USE from -gtk to +gtk, or can emerging > > one of those 8 packages listed satisfy the

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:00:03PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > > > Far better (IMO, YMMV) is to use /etc/portage/package.use specify such > > things > > per package. Unless, of course, you like having a gtk GUI for everythi

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:20:01PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/14 10:06 (GMT-0400) Willie Wong composed: > > > The above listing shows that phonon will be built with the "vlc" use > > flag, so clearly you haven't trimmed USE down to "just" > > bash-completion, ncurses, samba, slang, xat

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > > True, just be aware that if you enable gtk *globally* you will end up > > building the gtk interface for

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > > What makes the subtractive method better? > > > > This is how

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:00:03PM +0200, Mick wrote: > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last KDE > upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes (scanner, > rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages and libraries. > Other f

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:00:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:01 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > > What makes the sub

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:10:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:09 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > No, I do not propose that one never use global use flags. I just employ > > them very selectively, which is best

Re: [gentoo-user] site:www.gentoo.org (compile phase)...die "econf failed"

2011-05-15 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 08:30:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > > http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/ has my build.log, config.log and > eclass-debug.log files from 6 different emerge failures, plus output of > emerge --info. Is there something akin to a Handbook page that describes > similar failu

[gentoo-user] leafnode and xinetd?

2011-05-15 Thread Indi
Anyone here have leafnode running successfully? I seem to be stuck, and for some reason google appears to be stuck as well on this one. Apparently users who want leafnode are about as rare as hen's teeth... Output of xinetd -d follows: idd@gh:[~]$ xinetd -d 11/5/15@10:24:49: DEBUG: 3486 {

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 03:10:03PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 12:43:05 +, JDM wrote: > > > That's a clever trick. How do you get emails from emerge? > > Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf. > > Or as that man page says, "Please see /usr/share/portag

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:00:02AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/15 22:18 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: > > > I have two Gentoo stanzas in my primary bootloader, one to load the kernel, > > another to chainload Gentoo's Grub. Loading the kernel works, but chainload > > gives error 13 i

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > > Actually after the first or 2nd or some subsequent attempt that was my plan. > After so much time passed (days, not just hours) and I had good kernel, NFS, > and MC that I didn't see much point delaying KDE. After the errors > dis

[gentoo-user] Re: Spam and Moderation [was: An Invitation to Neuroscientists and Physicists: Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Reports First Hand Account of Mind Intrusion and Mind Read

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
Generally speaking, either messages sent to the list should be instantaneously available after hitting "send" OR someone is delaying the messages so they can be confirmed On Topic, or at least not spam? Crazy thought... -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:18:49PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > Actually after the first or 2nd or some subsequent attempt that was my > > > plan. > > > After so much time passed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Spam and Moderation [was: An Invitation to Neuroscientists and Physicists: Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Reports First Hand Account of Mind Intrusion and Mind

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 08:10:02PM +0200, Dale wrote: > Indi wrote: > > Generally speaking, either messages sent to the list should be > > instantaneously > > available after hitting "send" OR someone is delaying the messages so > > they can be con

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:10:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:14 -0400, Indi wrote: > > > > Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf. > > > Or as that man page says, > > "Please see /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Spam and Moderation [was: An Invitation to Neuroscientists and Physicists: Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Reports First Hand Account of Mind Intrusion and Mind

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:30:03PM +0200, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Indi wrote: > > Generally speaking, either messages sent to the list should be > > instantaneously > > available after hitting "send" OR someone is delaying the messag

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 01:10:02AM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:40:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I had many posts typed out, most of them rude, all of them classic > > Alan, but something held me back. Lucky it went that way, he later > > posted he read 1667MHZ as 16

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-17 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 09:40:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 09:16 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Neil Bothwick > did opine thusly: > > > While we are nitpicking: > > > > Douglas Adams was English, our second greatest writer, > > > That should be "greatest writer

Re: [gentoo-user] leafnode and xinetd?

2011-05-18 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:20:01PM +0200, James Cloos wrote: > >>>>> "I" == Indi writes: > > Leafnode works fine here. > > I> Output of xinetd -d > > Looks fine. > > In addition to the other reply's suggestions, does running &g

Re: [gentoo-user] leafnode and xinetd?

2011-05-18 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:10:02AM +0200, Indi wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:20:01PM +0200, James Cloos wrote: > > >>>>> "I" == Indi writes: > > > > Leafnode works fine here. > > > > I> Output of xinetd -d > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffer

2011-05-18 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:10:02PM +0200, JDM wrote: > Genthinktank, > How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour > depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and > error but there must be a command to determine these? > JDM I think "

Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc

2011-05-18 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 06:40:02PM +0200, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: > > > everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that > > hardly counts). > > > > > > What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since

Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc

2011-05-18 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:10:02PM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:52:22 Indi wrote: > > > Actually the latest flash update appears to have restored functional > > fullscreen video on my old thinkpad T-42. Several versions ago there was > > an

Re: [gentoo-user] portage python USE flags.

2011-05-18 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 02:40:01AM +0200, Dale wrote: > I have a quick question. I sync'd a bit ago and noticed something a bit > odd. Here it is: > > [ebuild U *] sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha34 [2.2.0_alpha33] > USE="(ipc) -build -doc -epydoc -python2 -python3 (-selinux)" > LINGUAS="-pl"

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an ati-drivers version which can coexist with the 2.6.39 kernel

2011-05-20 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:40:02PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 05/19/2011 11:20:05 PM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > Am 19.05.2011 22:32, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > > > Hi, > > > > > > no current ati-driver can get along with the recent 2.6.39 kernel > > > see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-20 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:50:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > I'm surprised that this problem hasn't already been posted here. > > For you users of unstable gentoo: the recent update of 'icu' broke > dozens of packages (as it always does) including libreoffice. > > The problem is that libreoffice fails

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-22 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:10:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > On 05/20/2011 08:24 PM, Indi wrote: > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:50:01AM +0200, walt wrote: > > >> For you users of unstable gentoo: the recent update of 'icu' broke > >> dozens of packages (

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-22 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 08:10:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Sunday 22 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > It's unfortunate that we don't have small, fast, light, standalone > > programs to deal with the formats

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-22 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 20:26 on Sunday 22 May 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 08:10:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Sund

Re: [gentoo-user] vertical panel in KDE4

2011-05-24 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 03:30:02PM +0200, András Csányi wrote: > > > Really??? I won the Lame of the Day prize.. :) > Oh, you'll have to work much harder than that to get LotD! What, you think they *give* those away? ;) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤

Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+C not working over ssh?

2011-05-24 Thread Indi
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 07:00:03PM +0200, Andy Wilkinson wrote: > I can't say for sure when this started, as I have gone a while without > accessing my computer remotely much, but perhaps since my last upgrade > (which may have included openrc), ctrl-c doesn't work over ssh. I have > tested thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-25 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:00:03AM +0200, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:31:40PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > > No, I think you need to get real. It's 2011, what did you expect? > > Here's what I don't expect. I run a tight ship on my machine. I > currently have gnumeric a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-25 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Indi wrote: > > For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us > > it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it? > > If he was already using Qt4, it might not h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-25 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 06:40:01PM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Indi: > > > Last I tried it, you can't run much of that stuff without the > > whole "kdeinit" thing, which is a giant resource hog (relatively > > speaking, for those of us accustomed to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-25 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:20:01PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > and have you ever heard of 'code reuse' or 'modularity'? > > It seems - no. > > Because KDE itself might be huge. But once loaded the apps are pretty small - > because they reuse code. kmail does not have its own html eng

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-25 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:20:01PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Oh - and you should spend some time on Alan's postings. He is not only a > certified OLD FART, he has some serious first hand, real world experience > that > makes most of the other OLD FARTs on this list look like noobs.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-25 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:10:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:46 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us > > it's a bit ridiculous, isn'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:00:02AM +0200, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I don't know how good "exmap" is, but my personal experience is quite > different. Between Fall 1999 and Summer 2007 I had a Dell Dimension > with a 450 mhz PIII and 128 megs of *SYSTEM RAM* (no not the video card). > It was actua

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:40:54AM -0400, Indi wrote: > > Two 800MB floppies > 800 KB, sorry. Can't even think that small anymore... ;) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤

Re: [gentoo-user] mutt: Tagging on the contents of mails

2011-05-27 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 07:10:02AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Dale [11-05-28 06:40]: > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > > >: > > > > > >How can I accomplish tagging on base of the contents of the mail > > >with the mailreader mutt? > > > > > >Best regards, > > >mcc > > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] mutt: Tagging on the contents of mails

2011-05-28 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 05:00:02AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way to mark mails as tagged based on the contents > of the body of the mails? > > Thank you very much for any help in advance! > Best regards, > mcc Inspired by your question I ended up configuring

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:10:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:37 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie > did opine thusly: > > > Hi, Neil. > > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:13:08PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 May 2011 22:58:39 +0200, Alan M

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-01 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:00:01AM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Personally, I'd be livid if portage were to remove my carefully crafted work > from time immemorial, without so much as a by-your-leave. Anyone who wants > to delete his own work is free to do so, but the rest of us ought not to

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-02 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 11:47:35AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Wednesday 01 June 2011, Indi did > opine thusly: > > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:00:01AM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Personally, I'd be livid if portag

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-02 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 6/1/2011 5:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Wednesday 01 June 2011, Indi did > > opine thusly: > > > >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:00:01AM +0200, Peter Hu

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-02 Thread Indi
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:30:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 10:49 on Thursday 02 June 2011, András Csányi > did opine thusly: > > > Hi All, > > > > Something strange happen here. I have seen few things in Linux world > > but this is very new for me! > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-02 Thread Indi
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 08:20:01PM +0200, Dale wrote: > David W Noon wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:20:02 +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: > > [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files: > > > > > >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:57:58 +0100, David W Noon wrote: > >> > > [snip] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-02 Thread Indi
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 04:50:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 15:09 on Thursday 02 June 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > On 6/1/2011 5:47 AM, Alan McKinno

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-02 Thread Indi
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 05:00:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 15:05 on Thursday 02 June 2011, Indi did > opine > thusly: > > > > scrap metal in the back yard that it's perfectly OK for marauding gangs > > > of thugs to have

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-03 Thread Indi
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:00:01AM +0200, Stroller wrote: > > Only saying since you asked - I've held my tongue for a long time. > The question that got you going was part of a control drama, not at all a sincere question -- think "does this dress make me look fat?" :) But really, personal st

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything

2011-06-03 Thread Indi
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:20:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Compare how Google goes about doing things with how Adobe does it. > > The Google Chromium team appears to take security seriously and are open and > up-front about what they do. > > Adobe likes to stonewall on issues and create

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything

2011-06-03 Thread Indi
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 06:10:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:12 on Friday 03 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:20:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Compare how Google goes about doing thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything

2011-06-03 Thread Indi
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:20:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:22 on Friday 03 June 2011, Indi did opine > thusly: > > > > > Neither. Adobe is utterly incompetent and apathetic, google is evil > > > > and wants to sell ad spac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything

2011-06-03 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:50:02AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Friday 03 June 2011 22:50:28 Mick wrote: > > > > > > > > Agreed. I do wish we'd get something open and reasonably well coded > > > > to > > > > replace flash, > > > > I do hope that html5 will do away with it altogether.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: website design

2011-06-03 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 03:00:01AM +0200, Stroller wrote: > > On 3 June 2011, at 08:44, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > ... > > So it's like that Java-based gmail client for smartphones? The one that can > > only top posts and gives the user no way to do it otherwise. > > I thought *every* mail client

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:10:01AM +0200, Stroller wrote: > > Part of my post that you chose not to quote was "I'd be the first to admit > that Macs have flaws." > > All desktops / UIs / operating-systems are a compromise. I don't believe any > of them are perfect. > > Last time I used Linux o

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:30:01AM +0200, Mick wrote: > On Friday 03 Jun 2011 21:10:29 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > When i start alsamixer and select with the "soundcard"-selector > > the audio device of my usb cam ... alsamixer crashes with: > > > > cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argu

  1   2   3   >