Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Optimal formatting a SDcard (64GB) with partions of diffent sizes and filesystems?

Fernando Rodriguez [15-08-08 05:43]: > On Friday, August 07, 2015 9:44:50 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Mick [15-08-07 20:04]: > > > On Friday 07 Aug 2015 04:27:15 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:18:59 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 07:57:29 Felix Miata wrote: > I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to > automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, > especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first > times. Why isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday, August 08, 2015 2:57:29 AM Felix Miata wrote: > I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to > automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, > especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first > times. Why

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

Fernando Rodriguez composed on 2015-08-08 03:43 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to >> automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, >> especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:45:06 AM Felix Miata wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez composed on 2015-08-08 03:43 (UTC-0400): > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to > >> automatically notice while booting any announcement that something

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:55:03 AM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:45:06 AM Felix Miata wrote: > > Fernando Rodriguez composed on 2015-08-08 03:43 (UTC-0400): > > > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > >> I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't li

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 05:13:06 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > To remove safely now you should run: > emerge --deselect dev-haskell/hostname > followed by: > emerge --depclean > > That will remove it only if it's not needed by some other package. Or emerge --depclean --ask --verbose dev-haskell/

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 02:57:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to > automatically notice while booting any announcement that something > failed, especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up > for the first times. Why is

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On 08/08/2015 14:23, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 05:13:06 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > >> To remove safely now you should run: >> emerge --deselect dev-haskell/hostname >> followed by: >> emerge --depclean >> >> That will remove it only if it's not needed by some other package.

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On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:32:48 -0500, J. Rutkowski wrote: > > There was no installer other than the handbook. > > There was the former Gentoo installer project [1] but it was > discontinued in 2009. The source is still available [2] You have taken my statement out of context. It looks like I was

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On 08/08/2015 14:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 02:57:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >> I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to >> automatically notice while booting any announcement that something >> failed, especially someone who has just gotten a

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J. Rutkowski kow.io> writes: > > There was no installer other than the handbook. OOppssee there was I have several images:: livecd-amd64-installer-2008.0-r1.iso > There was the former Gentoo installer project [1] but it was > discontinued in 2009. The source is still available [2] >

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On 2015-08-08, Felix Miata wrote: > I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to > automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, > especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first > times. Why isn't --noclear set by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to > great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup > process as possible. WTF? Do they think that stuff is top secret or > something? Are they afra

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:41:27 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > The next > big change is likely to be virtualizing openrc so that it can be > uninstalled, and possibly not including it in the stage3, but that > hasn't really even been seriously discussed. (Virtualizing it seems > almost certain to happe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 18:02:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to > > great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup > > process as possible. WTF? Do they

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes: > > I don't get why any distro leaves this out, why anyone wouldn't like to > > automatically notice while booting any announcement that something failed, > > especially someone who has just gotten a new installation up for the first > > times. Why isn't --noclea

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On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:05 PM, walt wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:41:27 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> The next >> big change is likely to be virtualizing openrc so that it can be >> uninstalled, and possibly not including it in the stage3, but that >> hasn't really even been seriously discus

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > there is *no we* in nix unless your or I step up. > Fair enough! :: > git clone --bare https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.gitCloning into bare > repository 'gli.git'... > fatal: repository 'https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/' not found > It'd be wonderfully

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On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 07:41:27PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > So, I don't know if that makes you more or less worried, but nothing > has really changed in the last year on the systemd front. The next > big change is likely to be virtualizing openrc so that it can be > uninstalled, and possibl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 11:02 GMT-06:00 Neil Bothwick : > Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has > completed successfully. If the boot halts, you can see where and, > usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. > Most splash screens I've seen, can change back to the init

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 18:02:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to > > > great effort to hide as much information about the

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-08 18:02 (UTC+0100): > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: >> Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to >> great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup >> process as possible. WTF? Do they

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/08/2015 01:37 PM, James wrote: > James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > >> there is *no we* in nix unless your or I step up. Fair enough! >> :: > >> git clone --bare https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.gitCloning >> into bare repository 'gli.git'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Poison BL. wrote: > > So it was prompted by a perceived security issue, but I would happily sit > down with any of the DPOs involved in that to hear just how that little > bandaid fixes any of the real security issues involved ;) > > -- > Joshua M. Murphy > > Actual

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Am 08.08.2015 um 19:05 schrieb walt: > I just noticed that net-misc/netifrc installs two systemd service files, > which puzzled me. Is this in preparation for virtualizing openrc? This is to provide systemd users with the corresponding service files like OpenRC users get the necessary init script

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On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > I think this should actually be handled by USE="-systemd", and not by > INSTALL_MASK. This was the subject of extensive discussion and a council decision. The rationale for not configuring the installing of small files via a USE flag is that i

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Am 08.08.2015 um 21:30 schrieb Rich Freeman: > This was the subject of extensive discussion and a council decision. > > The rationale for not configuring the installing of small files via a > USE flag is that it would greatly increase the number of packages that > would depend on that flag, and th

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On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 08.08.2015 um 21:30 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> This was the subject of extensive discussion and a council decision. >> >> The rationale for not configuring the installing of small files via a >> USE flag is that it would greatly increase the nu

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On 08/08/2015 22:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am 08.08.2015 um 21:30 schrieb Rich Freeman: >>> This was the subject of extensive discussion and a council decision. >>> >>> The rationale for not configuring the installing of small files via a >>> U

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday, August 08, 2015 2:26:50 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 08/08/2015 14:23, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 05:13:06 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > >> To remove safely now you should run: > >> emerge --deselect dev-haskell/hostname > >> followed by: > >> emerge --depcle

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Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 08/08/2015 22:02, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> It is recommended that users not set an INSTALL_MASK, so you won't >> have to rebuild anything if you don't do that. If you care that much >> about inodes I'd probably get rid of /usr/portage before >> /usr/lib/systemd. :) >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:28:00 PM Mick wrote: > On Saturday 08 Aug 2015 18:02:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to > > > great effort to hide as much information abo

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:21:07 -0400 "Poison BL." wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Poison BL. wrote: > > > > So it was prompted by a perceived security issue, but I would > > happily sit down with any of the DPOs involved in that to hear just > > how that little bandaid fixes any of the rea

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 12:21:12 -0600, Jc García wrote: > > Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has > > completed successfully. If the boot halts, you can see where and, > > usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. > Most splash screens I've seen, can change

[gentoo-user] Re: why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

Jonathan Callen gentoo.org> writes: > Until Sven updates his code to not use GuideXML, I have linked to his > snapshots in my own devspace, under > . > The snapshots go back to 2008-01-20, and are current to 2015-07-20. downloading now. thx James