Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-08 18:02 (UTC+0100): > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to >> great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup >> process as possible. WTF? Do they think that stuff is top secret or >> something? Are they afraid they'll lose their jobs if that info gets >> out? > No, they think that the type of user they are trying to attract is likely > to be scared off by all that cryptic text scrolling by. They are probably > right. > Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has > completed successfully. Clear happens so quickly the messages may as well have never been there. I get to see first maybe 4 or 5 if I don't blink at the wrong time. > If the boot halts, you can see where and, > usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. I'm not sure Fedostemdtering hasn't incorporated noclear for tty1 by default. I dislike Anaconda, so don't install it often, preferring to upgrade with Yum->DNF. I just booted an F23 installation that didn't clear, but I can't say that wasn't because I long ago reconfigured systemd. openSUSE has been my distro of choice since before it was born, as SuSE 8.2. Except for a period of transitioning from sysvinit to systemd[1], noclear has been always its default for *getty on tty1. To actually have all the init messages reach tty1 requires eliminating splash=silent and/or quiet from boot stanza, but that's easy rote during its installer's bootloader configuration step, and easily doable on the fly in Grub GFXboot if overlooked during installation. [1] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721660 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/