Re: [gentoo-user] Quick question: Bootdevice nameing...

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which > sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC. > > The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can > boot bu itsself without accessing any other storage device. > > What is the mo

Re: [gentoo-user] repoman the optimist

Using RESTRICT="primaryuri" inside the ebuilds (unfortunately doesn't work as an environment variable). Beware that's planned to be deprecated. Someone suggested setting an empty mirror string as an environment variable but I had no success. Il Lun 6 Apr 2020, 05:57 Ian Zimmerman ha scritto: > I

[gentoo-user] Quick question: Bootdevice nameing...

Hi, Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC. The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can boot bu itsself without accessing any other storage device. What is the most common behaviour here: If I change

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 6/4/20 1:12 am, tu...@posteo.de wrote: Hi, currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all the application I had on my old system. Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today (or yesterday...it depends...;) . When the whole compilation has finished and the sy

[gentoo-user] repoman the optimist

I am preparing some home made ebuilds and I run "repoman manifest" as part of the process. repoman downloads the upstream tarball for the package from the SRC_URI location, but only after trying the distfiles directory on all servers in my PORTAGE_MIRRORS. This software is not packaged by gentoo,

[gentoo-user] Re: For what is emerge waiting for...?

On 05/04/2020 22:10, tu...@posteo.de wrote: [...] I start emerge with a bunch of packages to compile and install. And it happens from time to time that all cores seem to be on holiday: No load at all. And emerge sits there and waits... And the harddisk is not busy at all...no blinkenlights, noth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why busybox?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:56:13 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > The true reason I want to avoid it is that portage keeps spamming me > about the configuration - handled by saveconfig or something. It > happens every time it is rebuild and I don't know how to stop it. Read the spam, it tells you what t

Re: [gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 22:13:57 +0200 Stefan Schmiedl wrote: > "tu...@posteo.de" , 05.04.2020, 21:58: > > > if emerge encounters a have-to-use-one-core-onlu ebiuld and that one > > is not constantlu writing to the disk I would expect one core busy > > at least. > > > But no...nothing...as I said

Re: [gentoo-user] Why busybox?

On 2020.04.05 16:03, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? > > As far as I know the only use for it on a desktop system is for > initramfs. I have no initramfs, therefore I have no need for busybox.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why busybox?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:19 PM Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ian Zimmerman > wrote: > > > > Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? > > > > As far as I know the only use for it on a desktop system is for > > initramfs. I have no initramfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why busybox?

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 12:56:13PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > As for rescue scenarios, that has been obsolete for a long time. For at least > 10 years now It is still used in some rescue situations, for example, an initramfs panic. https://askubuntu.com/q/137655/ (This post was eight years ago

Re: [gentoo-user] Why busybox?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ian Zimmerman > wrote: > > > > Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? > > > > As far as I know the only use for it on a desktop system is for > > initramfs.  I have no initramfs, therefore I have

Re: [gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

"tu...@posteo.de" , 05.04.2020, 21:58: > if emerge encounters a have-to-use-one-core-onlu ebiuld and that one > is not constantlu writing to the disk I would expect one core busy > at least. > But no...nothing...as I said: All cores on holidays...:) I ran into this a few times when some host was

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 04/05 08:41, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 5 April 2020 19:12:45 CEST, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > >Hi, > > > >currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > >the application I had on my old system. > > > >Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today > >(or yesterday...it

[gentoo-user] Re: simple image annotation software

On 2020-04-05, Urs Schütz wrote: > On 2020-04-02 15:57, Grant Edwards wrote: [...] >> I installed flameshot (required no additional packages be installed). >> >> It can not be used to annotate existing image files. There's a long >> list of requests for that feature on the GitHub site, but appar

[gentoo-user] Re: Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 2020-04-05, Mark Knecht wrote: > If copying 100GB causes too much heat watching smartctl will show you > before it gets too hot and you can stop it. If your SSD really can't handle large data transfers without damage, I'd get a different one. Copying a few hundred GB in one go golly well bet

Re: [gentoo-user] Why busybox?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? > > As far as I know the only use for it on a desktop system is for > initramfs. I have no initramfs, therefore I have no need for busybox. > I unmerged it and nothing bad happened excep

Re: [gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

On 04/05 02:41, Dale wrote: > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > no critism or anything else negative implied here... > > ,..I am just asking out of coriosity: > > > > This day I am busy compiling all the application, > > which are installed on my old system. > > > > I gave emerge 12 threads an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On 4/5/20 1:41 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2020-04-04 20:03, tu...@posteo.de wrote: Wouldn't transferring the world file be enough? Is it? As far as I know, for having the same packages pulled in, this is all that matters (plus possibly @world_sets as Neil mentions). Of course you have all s

[gentoo-user] Re: Why busybox?

On 2020-04-05 19:45, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? > > BusyBox is just a minimal set of utilities which would be useful for > rescuing a system, or to be used on an embedded system with extreme > limitations. There's not really any reason to remove

Re: [gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

On 04/05 08:38, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:10:57 +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > And it happens from time to time that all cores seem to be > > on holiday: No load at all. And emerge sits there and waits... > > And the harddisk is not busy at all...no blinkenlights, > > noth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: simple image annotation software

On 2020-04-02 15:57, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-04-02, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-04-02, Ashley Dixon wrote: If your original images are screenshots, I'd recommend 'flameshot'. They're not. They're jpeg files produced by running photos though some Imagemagick 'convert' operations. Do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On 4/5/20 1:41 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2020-04-04 20:03, tu...@posteo.de wrote: Wouldn't transferring the world file be enough? Is it? As far as I know, for having the same packages pulled in, this is all that matters (plus possibly @world_sets as Neil mentions). Of course you have all s

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 14:09:16 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I've used the watch command but don't quite get it yet.  With the >> command below, how would watch be added to that to make it update every >> set number of seconds, say 10 seconds or so? >> >> smartctl -a /dev/sdd | grep T

Re: [gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > no critism or anything else negative implied here... > ,..I am just asking out of coriosity: > > This day I am busy compiling all the application, > which are installed on my old system. > > I gave emerge 12 threads and 6 cores to do its work > (The CPU is a 6 core

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:08:24 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I wonder, would there ever be any valid reason to have the E.S.P.\ > > and /boot as different partitions ? > > I found I had to do so. I couldn't get Neil's prererred layout to work. > I forget the details now, but I only managed to

Re: [gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:10:57 +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > And it happens from time to time that all cores seem to be > on holiday: No load at all. And emerge sits there and waits... > And the harddisk is not busy at all...no blinkenlights, > nothing. Is $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on a ramdisk? -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:03:23 +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > And yes, Michael, same here. I am not veru convinced, that everything > is well tested and tested for all use cases... > I would say that copying an OS to the drive is the first use case most SSDs experience, and one that occurs well wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:37:04 +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > which rises a question about how to resume an interrypted > rsync-session. Just run the rsync command again. -- Neil Bothwick Death is proven to be 99.9% fatal to all laboratory rats. pgpvox39WKZa8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 14:09:16 -0500, Dale wrote: > I've used the watch command but don't quite get it yet.  With the > command below, how would watch be added to that to make it update every > set number of seconds, say 10 seconds or so? > > smartctl -a /dev/sdd | grep Temp watch -n 10 '(smartctl

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > ...I just wanted to check, whether there is water in the pool... :) > > I minute ago I found this: > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/203018/interrupting-rsync-with-ctrl-c-should-i-use-partial-or-append > > which rises a question about how to resume an interrypted

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/05 01:08, Dale wrote: >> tu...@posteo.de wrote: >>> On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > Hi, > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > the application I had on my old system. > >

[gentoo-user] For what is emerge waiting for...?

Hi, no critism or anything else negative implied here... ,..I am just asking out of coriosity: This day I am busy compiling all the application, which are installed on my old system. I gave emerge 12 threads and 6 cores to do its work (The CPU is a 6 core one). I start emerge with a bunch of pa

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:08:08 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> If you are using rsync or cp -u you could start the copy then stop at it >> certain points to let the SSD cool, then start it again.  It will >> basically pick up where it left off. > Don't use cp -u, if you interrupt it whi

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 04/05 07:22, Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 5 April 2020 18:54:25 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > > > > the application I had o

Re: [gentoo-user] Why busybox?

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 10:53:50AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? BusyBox is just a minimal set of utilities which would be useful for rescuing a system, or to be used on an embedded system with extreme limitations. There's not really any reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 5 April 2020 19:12:45 CEST, tu...@posteo.de wrote: >Hi, > >currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all >the application I had on my old system. > >Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today >(or yesterday...it depends...;) . > >When the whole compilation has fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 04/05 01:08, Dale wrote: > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > >>> the application I had on my old system. > >>> > >>> Due to delivery probl

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 04/05 11:12, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM wrote: > > > > On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > > > > the application I had on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:08:08 -0500, Dale wrote: > If you are using rsync or cp -u you could start the copy then stop at it > certain points to let the SSD cool, then start it again.  It will > basically pick up where it left off. Don't use cp -u, if you interrupt it while a file is being copied, t

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sunday, 5 April 2020 18:54:25 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > > > the application I had on my old system. > > > > > > Due to delivery

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SDD, what features to look for and what to avoid.

On Saturday, 4 April 2020 10:51:42 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 3 April 2020 16:14:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Well, raw throughput is great ’n all, but in real-life you won’t notice > > much difference between a SATA and an NVME drive. > > Not so. The difference is dramatic. F

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM wrote: > > On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > > > the application I had on my old system. > > > > > > Due to delivery problems (cor

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sunday, 5 April 2020 13:56:55 BST Ashley Dixon wrote: > I wonder, would there ever be any valid reason to have the E.S.P.\ and /boot > as different partitions ? I found I had to do so. I couldn't get Neil's prererred layout to work. I forget the details now, but I only managed to build a usab

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all >>> the application I had on my old system. >>> >>> Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today >>> (o

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > > the application I had on my old system. > > > > Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today > > (or yesterday...it depen

[gentoo-user] Why busybox?

Why does portage insist on installing busybox for me? As far as I know the only use for it on a desktop system is for initramfs. I have no initramfs, therefore I have no need for busybox. I unmerged it and nothing bad happened except for a warning from portage that it is part of my profile set.

[gentoo-user] Re: ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On 2020-04-04 20:03, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Wouldn't transferring the world file be enough? > > Is it? As far as I know, for having the same packages pulled in, this is all that matters (plus possibly @world_sets as Neil mentions). Of course you have all sorts of other configuration to replic

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM wrote: > > Hi, > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all > the application I had on my old system. > > Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today > (or yesterday...it depends...;) . > > When the whole compilation has finished

[gentoo-user] Copying root to SSD in one go...a good idea...or?

Hi, currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all the application I had on my old system. Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today (or yesterday...it depends...;) . When the whole compilation has finished and the system boots it needs to be transfered to the SS

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:56:55 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > This isn't strictly true, the ESP must be vfat, but you can still > > have an ext? /boot. However, it generally makes sense to have the ESP > > and /boot as the same partition, that's how I generally do it. either > > way, the handbook app

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sunday, 5 April 2020 13:56:55 BST Ashley Dixon wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 01:52:52PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > This isn't strictly true, the ESP must be vfat, but you can still have an > > ext? /boot. However, it generally makes sense to have the ESP and /boot > > as the same partiti

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard

On 04/04/2020 23:11, Alarig Le Lay wrote: The news item from 2020-04-03 says “future removal of the legacy X11 input drivers x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard“ [...] However, emerge --depclean doesn’t try to remove them. That's normal. They are deps behind USE fl

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 01:52:52PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > This isn't strictly true, the ESP must be vfat, but you can still have an > ext? /boot. However, it generally makes sense to have the ESP and /boot > as the same partition, that's how I generally do it. either way, the > handbook appe

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 10:28:50 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > Here /boot changes from fat32 to ext2. > > Since this is my first U/EFI system I am a little confused. > > Good morning Meino, > > For U.E.F.I., the boot partition (/dev/sda2) must be FAT32. In your > fstab file, this is written as (t

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On 04/05 10:46, Michael wrote: > Hi Meino, > > On Sunday, 5 April 2020 09:17:41 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > a new morning... :) > > > > Being on the way to install/setup the base system (mostly getting > > stage3 uptodate) I came accross kinda inconsistency -- or at least > > i

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

Hi Meino, On Sunday, 5 April 2020 09:17:41 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > a new morning... :) > > Being on the way to install/setup the base system (mostly getting > stage3 uptodate) I came accross kinda inconsistency -- or at least > it looks like for me. > > The system uses a 3T harddi

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:21:32 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:59:56 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > I have some problems to understand, whether I understood... > > > > In the german language the "'s are often used to express the > > > > opposite of what is written in wo

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 10:17:41AM +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Here /boot changes from fat32 to ext2. > Since this is my first U/EFI system I am a little confused. Good morning Meino, For U.E.F.I., the boot partition (/dev/sda2) must be FAT32. In your fstab file, this is written as (the last

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:59:56 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > I have some problems to understand, whether I understood... > > In the german language the "'s are often used to express the > opposite of what is written in words. For example: > > What a "nice" weather it is...! > > will say:

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

On 04/04 03:56, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 4/4/20 11:34 AM, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > Hi, > > Hi, > > > I am currently preparing a new harddisc as home for my new Gentoo > > system. > > > > Is it possible to recreate exactlu the same pool of > > applications/programs/libraries etc..., which my cu