On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:54 AM <tu...@posteo.de> wrote:
>
> On 04/05 10:33, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:13 AM <tu...@posteo.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > currentlu I am preparing a new Gentoo Linux by compiling all
> > > the application I had on my old system.
> > >
> > > Due to delivery problems (corona) my SSD was delivered today
> > > (or yesterday...it depends...;) .
> > >
> > > When the whole compilation has finished and the system boots it
> > > needs to be transfered to the SSD.
> > >
> > > The SSD has a heat spreader...so it gets hot, when used.
> > >
> > > Is it wise to copy the whole root system to the SSD in one go
> > > in respect to a not so healthy heat increase?
> > >
> > > And if not...how can I copy the root system in portions
> > > to the SSD and do not miss anything?
> > >
> > > Are there SDD-friendly and SSD-unfriendlu methods of copying
> > > greater chunks of data to a SSD (rsync, tar-pipe, cp....)?
> > > What is recommended here?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for any help for a SSD newbie in advance!
> > >
> > > Cheers! And stay heathy!
> > > Meino
> > >
> >
> > Just my 2 cents...
> >
> > If the SSD cannot survive having data copied to it there's something
> > seriously wrong with the drive. I don't think you should be overly
worried
> > about this but I do understand it's new technology so you want to be
> > careful. Bravo for that.
> >
> > Possibly to ease your concerns a little bit use smartctl -a /dev/SSD and
> > get to know your drive that way. You can most likely watch the drive
temp
> > as recorded by the drive.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Mark
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Yes, if a SSD could not survive writes, something is wrong with the
> SSD. But that was not my point.
> Copying about 100GB (roughly guessed) data in one go to the SSD is a
> use case, which is not common. And therefore possibly not taken into
> account by the company, which create that SSD.
> SSDs can create noticeable heat (mine has a minimalistic heat
> spreader therefore. Faster SSDs come with a substancial heatspreader).
>
> Smartctl will report problems when they are already there.
> I want to prevent problems beforehand.
>
> So -- does copying about 100 GB creates so much heat in the sillicone
> of the SSD, that it ages more than preferred?
>
> And if so, how can I prevent it by appluing other techniques to copy
> the data?
> See additional questions in my initial posting for that.
>
> Thanks a lot for any helpful advice in advance!
> Cheers!
> Meino
>

If copying 100GB causes too much heat watching smartctl will show you
before it gets too hot and you can stop it.

100GB of data as a copy is only 1 write cycle to any given data block on
the drive. It's not going to matter how you get it there but something like
rsync _might_ allow a restart in the middle of the copy if your rsync
operation was to fail part way through.

I don't personally think there's anything at all for you to worry about
with this but I can see it's not my words that will get you there. I will
only offer that I've used SSDs for 5-6 years now and only had the first one
I purchased fail. I ran Gentoo with nightly code compiles for about 2 years
before moving away from Gentoo and never had a problem with any of that.

I think you're just going to have to hold your nose and jump in the pool.
We welcome you. The water is fine!

Mark

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