[gentoo-user] Re: experience with rsnapshot

On 2011-11-24, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 19:26 -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >> I am using rdiff-backup which is no longer maintained, but still seems >> to work, but I was thinking to use rsnapshot instead which seems like >> a >> nice way to do this, but this seems n

[gentoo-user] Re: experience with rsnapshot

On 2011-11-24, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > I am using rdiff-backup which is no longer maintained, but still seems > to work, but I was thinking to use rsnapshot instead which seems like a > nice way to do this, but this seems not to have been maintained for a > while, either, so I was wonderin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

Fair enough. :) ZZ On Nov 24, 2011 12:25 AM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > Am 2011-11-24 00:45, schrieb Michael Mol: > > DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the > > connector at the computer contains both analog and digital signaling. > > If there is only one ... this

[gentoo-user] glibc-2.14.1 upgrade

Hi, After emerging glibc-2.14.1 today, pam stopped working, which prevented KDE from working and some other things. I got this kind of message: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib64/libcrypt.so.1) There were no @preserved-rebuild and revdep-rebuild found nothing. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

Am 2011-11-24 00:45, schrieb Michael Mol: > DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the > connector at the computer contains both analog and digital signaling. If there is only one ... this results in one VGA-output only as well ... and I need 2.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

Alex Schuster wrote: Dale asks: OK. Everyone duck, I been thinking on this and Neils info above. lol This is what I sort of figured out and tell me where I am off here. I have to reduce the file system, change the partition in cfdisk (?), resize the lv, then reduce the vg, then I can run pvm

Re: [gentoo-user] experience with rsnapshot

On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 19:26 -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > I am using rdiff-backup which is no longer maintained, but still seems > to work, but I was thinking to use rsnapshot instead which seems like > a > nice way to do this, but this seems not to have been maintained for a > while, eithe

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

Dale asks: > OK. Everyone duck, I been thinking on this and Neils info above. lol > This is what I sort of figured out and tell me where I am off here. I > have to reduce the file system, change the partition in cfdisk (?), > resize the lv, then reduce the vg, then I can run pvmove? After

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

Mark Knecht [11-11-24 04:02]: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > > Alex Schuster [11-11-23 20:08]: > >> meino.cra...@gmx.de asks: > >> > >> > Is it right, that is simple to pull out the old card and insert the > >> > new one or do I badly forget anything ? > >> > >> Just be sure to sh

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: You have space in the filesystem, but the volume containing that filesystem is too large to move. You must first reduce the filesystem size, with resize2fs or whatever suits your fs, then shrink the LV with lvresize. That will free up enough extents to be able

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 09:29, Dale wrote: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2011 5:13 AM, "Florian Philipp" wrote: >> >> Am 23.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Mark Knecht: >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Paul Hartman >> > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pandu Poluan >> >> wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 24, 2011 5:13 AM, "Florian Philipp" > wrote: > > Am 23.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Mark Knecht: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Paul Hartman > > > wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pand

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

Neil Bothwick wrote: You have space in the filesystem, but the volume containing that filesystem is too large to move. You must first reduce the filesystem size, with resize2fs or whatever suits your fs, then shrink the LV with lvresize. That will free up enough extents to be able to fit them

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

On Nov 24, 2011 5:13 AM, "Florian Philipp" wrote: > > Am 23.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Mark Knecht: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Paul Hartman > > wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> I'm just wondering, what are the benefits & drawbacks of turning on > >>>

[gentoo-user] experience with rsnapshot

I am using rdiff-backup which is no longer maintained, but still seems to work, but I was thinking to use rsnapshot instead which seems like a nice way to do this, but this seems not to have been maintained for a while, either, so I was wondering if anyone is using it and how it works for you? Tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the connector at the computer contains both analog and digital signaling. ZZ On Nov 23, 2011 5:42 PM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > Am 2011-11-23 20:02, schrieb Michael Mol: > > > ISTR gcc's i7 optimizations giving someone in here tr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

Am 2011-11-23 20:02, schrieb Michael Mol: > ISTR gcc's i7 optimizations giving someone in here trouble within the > last couple weeks. As I recall, they dropped back to march and mtune=core2. I don't expect wonders from the new compiler and its options. For now I am more constrained by the fact t

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

Am 23.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> I'm just wondering, what are the benefits & drawbacks of turning on >>> "static" USE flag for sys-boot/grub? >> >> I seem to remember it

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:07:55 -0600, Dale wrote: > I think we have a problem: > > root@fireball / # pvmove -v /dev/sdb1 > Finding volume group "data" > Archiving volume group "data" metadata (seqno 4). > Creating logical volume pvmove0 > Moving 59604 extents of logical volume d

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Fundamentally doesn't it build in any libraries, etc.? I don't know really. I think, generally speaking, the "static" USE flag is mostly useful for people who build initramfs and don't want dynamically linked libraries involved.

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> I'm just wondering, what are the benefits & drawbacks of turning on >> "static" USE flag for sys-boot/grub? > > I seem to remember it has something to do with whether you're using > 32b

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: I'm just wondering, what are the benefits& drawbacks of turning on "static" USE flag for sys-boot/grub? I seem to remember it has something to do with whether you're using 32bit vs 64bit, but I can't be certain. I so

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > Alex Schuster [11-11-23 20:08]: >> meino.cra...@gmx.de asks: >> >> > Is it right, that is simple to pull out the old card and insert the >> > new one or do I badly forget anything ? >> >> Just be sure to shut the machine down before doing that. You migh

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-boot/grub USE="static"

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > I'm just wondering, what are the benefits & drawbacks of turning on > "static" USE flag for sys-boot/grub? I seem to remember it has something to do with whether you're using 32bit vs 64bit, but I can't be certain.

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

Alex Schuster [11-11-23 20:08]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de asks: > > > Is it right, that is simple to pull out the old card and insert the > > new one or do I badly forget anything ? > > Just be sure to shut the machine down before doing that. You might lock > yourself out for quite a while if not.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:50:08 -0600, Dale wrote: Another LVM question. If I want to remove a drive and tell pvmove to move the data off it, can the drive have files being written to it while this is done? I'm wanting to use my old spare drive to move some things around but

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, wrote: > Mark Knecht [11-11-23 19:00]: >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:21 AM,   wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Before I lock out myself from my Linux system... >> > >> > Current state: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 >> > [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1) >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

Am 23.11.2011 18:05, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> Ad CFLAGS for i7-2600: >> >> Is that too much ricer-style? --> >> >> ### gcc -march=native -E -v - &1 | sed -n 's/.* -v - //p' >> >> CFLAGS="-O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

Mark Knecht [11-11-23 19:00]: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:21 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Before I lock out myself from my Linux system... > > > > Current state: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce > > GT 430] (rev a1) > > which I want to exchange with a MSI 560 Ti made a

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:21 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > Before I lock out myself from my Linux system... > > Current state: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce > GT 430] (rev a1) > which I want to exchange with a MSI 560 Ti made also by msi. > > I am using the nvidia-drivers..

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

Florian Philipp [11-11-23 18:48]: > Am 23.11.2011 18:21, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > > Hi, > > > > Before I lock out myself from my Linux system... > > > > Current state: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce > > GT 430] (rev a1) > > which I want to exchange with a MSI

Re: [gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

Am 23.11.2011 18:21, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > Hi, > > Before I lock out myself from my Linux system... > > Current state: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce > GT 430] (rev a1) > which I want to exchange with a MSI 560 Ti made also by msi. > > I am using the nvidi

[gentoo-user] Before locking out myself...

Hi, Before I lock out myself from my Linux system... Current state: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1) which I want to exchange with a MSI 560 Ti made also by msi. I am using the nvidia-drivers... Is it right, that is simple to pull out the old card a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Ad CFLAGS for i7-2600: > > Is that too much ricer-style?  --> > > ### gcc -march=native -E -v - &1 | sed -n 's/.* -v - //p' > > CFLAGS="-O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf -maes > -mpclmul -mpopcnt -mavx --param l1-ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

Ad CFLAGS for i7-2600: Is that too much ricer-style? --> ### gcc -march=native -E -v - &1 | sed -n 's/.* -v - //p' CFLAGS="-O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf -maes -mpclmul -mpopcnt -mavx --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param l2-cache-size=8192 -mtune=g

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Nov 23, 2011 10:32 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I notice this entire thread has carefully steered around ESXi > > > > Now there's an interesting product, with a truly fascinating licensing > > and pricing model. > > ESXi isn't Linux. O

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I notice this entire thread has carefully steered around ESXi > > Now there's an interesting product, with a truly fascinating licensing > and pricing model. ESXi isn't Linux. Or, at least, it's not something you'd run on your desktop. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Lets grant that the VirtualBox modules are not up to LKML standards. > That's fine, very little out of the tree is. I'm willing to bet that > the majority of the issues are silly bugs involving pointer arithmetic > (the usual cause of these

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:01:34 +0100 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > On Tue, November 22, 2011 11:47 pm, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > > > YMMV ... VB is stable and rarely if ever breaks, app and modules > > "just work" - performance is as good as vmware > > I actually found VB to have better performa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 05:51:19 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:17:07 +0100 > > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > > >> The 22/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > >> > I use virtualbox and it's the one I recommend. > >> > > >> >

[gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On 2011-11-23, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wed, November 23, 2011 12:06 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:29:23 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> What I like about VBox is that you get all the useful bits in the >>> open-source version. >> >> Except USB support. > > Huh? The last t

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, November 23, 2011 2:34 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:57:31 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> >> What I like about VBox is that you get all the useful bits in the >> >> open-source version. >> > >> > Except USB support. >> >> Huh? >> >> I used VirtualBox with a MSWindowsXP

[gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

The 23/11/11, J. Roeleveld wrote: > I also got "random memory corruption" when compiling large packages with > simple kernel configurations and no "out-of-tree" modules present on the > system. > > Do you have any evidence to proof that this randomness is actually caused > by VB modules and not s

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

Am Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:34:45 + schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:57:31 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > >> What I like about VBox is that you get all the useful bits in the > > >> open-source version. > > > > > > Except USB support. > > > > Huh? > > > > I used VirtualBox

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:17:07 +0100 > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > >> The 22/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > I use virtualbox and it's the one I recommend. >> > >> > The kernel modules are no better and no worse than any other >> > out-of-tr

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:57:31 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> What I like about VBox is that you get all the useful bits in the > >> open-source version. > > > > Except USB support. > > Huh? > > I used VirtualBox with a MSWindowsXP guest to use a "negatives" scanner > that would refuse to wor

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and LABELS in fstab

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:50:08 -0600, Dale wrote: > Another LVM question. If I want to remove a drive and tell pvmove to > move the data off it, can the drive have files being written to it > while this is done? I'm wanting to use my old spare drive to move some > things around but right now LVM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, November 23, 2011 1:59 pm, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 23/11/11, Joseph Davis wrote: >> I agree a list of issues, just broad ones, would be helpful. >> >> I am interested in VMs, so knowing which ones have what problems, >> and my own needs, would be help me make a good choice. >> >> Plea

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Tue, November 22, 2011 11:47 pm, William Kenworthy wrote: > YMMV ... VB is stable and rarely if ever breaks, app and modules "just > work" - performance is as good as vmware I actually found VB to have better performance. When using virtual machines, I tend to run multiple simultaneously. V

[gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

The 23/11/11, Joseph Davis wrote: > I agree a list of issues, just broad ones, would be helpful. > > I am interested in VMs, so knowing which ones have what problems, > and my own needs, would be help me make a good choice. > > Please, disparage with details! ;-) I've already said "random memory

Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, November 23, 2011 12:06 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:29:23 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> What I like about VBox is that you get all the useful bits in the >> open-source version. > > Except USB support. Huh? I used VirtualBox with a MSWindowsXP guest to use a "nega

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

I agree a list of issues, just broad ones, would be helpful. I am interested in VMs, so knowing which ones have what problems, and my own needs, would be help me make a good choice. Please, disparage with details! ;-) Thanks - Joseph Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: The 23/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote:

[gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

The 23/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:17:07 +0100 > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > You're wrong. Using the virtualbox module means you turn the kernel to > > "tained crap" because of the number of problems it causes, including > > random memory curruption. > > Care to back tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:17:07 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 22/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I use virtualbox and it's the one I recommend. > > > > The kernel modules are no better and no worse than any other > > out-of-tree modules. > > You're wrong. Using the virtualbox module mean

[gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please.

The 22/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I use virtualbox and it's the one I recommend. > > The kernel modules are no better and no worse than any other > out-of-tree modules. You're wrong. Using the virtualbox module means you turn the kernel to "tained crap" because of the number of problems it c