Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:07:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel > > fetching for some time - it's faster to let the distfiles download > > while the first package is compiling. > > > > emerge -auDN @world covers all of that - except

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-player problem

2011-09-14 Thread David Relson
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:11:35 -0400 David Relson wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:32:59 +0300 > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > On 09/15/2011 01:28 AM, David Relson wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:45:58 +0300 > > > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > > > >> On 09/14/2011 03:00 PM, David Relson wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-player problem

2011-09-14 Thread David Relson
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:32:59 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 09/15/2011 01:28 AM, David Relson wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:45:58 +0300 > > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > >> On 09/14/2011 03:00 PM, David Relson wrote: > >>> Using files pointed to from BGO, I have successfully installed >

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: Nahh, you miss my point. I don't want my attention to be anywhere near the machine except for the 1 minute it takes to run the fetch, and then assuming that worked, for the 1 minute it takes to start the build. I then come back an hour or two later, make sure everything got

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick  wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> 3) Do the rest of the work emerge -fDuN @world emerge -pvDuN @world Fix US

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 3) Do the rest of the work emerge -fDuN @world emerge -pvDuN @world Fix USE flag issues, if any 4) Do the build emerge -DuN -j13 @world There's not point in doi

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> 3) Do the rest of the work >> >> emerge -fDuN @world >> emerge -pvDuN @world >> >> Fix USE flag issues, if any >> >> 4) Do the build >> >> emerge -DuN -j13 @world > > There's not poi

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 14:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Who actually speaks on the list. As far as we know, maybe the only Gentoo users disagreeing with the changes are the ones saying so on the list. We don't know. ok, as one of the silent ones on this topic so

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:03:34 -0500, Dale wrote: I agree with the other post about gcc but you should also update portage shortly after that. The newer portage is able to handle more issues for you and may save you some

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 15 September 2011 00:43:08 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:37:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > If I can't even be trusted to write English correctly, which is my > > > day job, you certainly don't want to see my code ;-) > > > > I used to think Linux Format needed a

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:37:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > 3) Do the rest of the work > > emerge -fDuN @world > emerge -pvDuN @world > > Fix USE flag issues, if any > > 4) Do the build > > emerge -DuN -j13 @world There's not point in doing the fetch first, portage has done parallel fetching for

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:37:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > If I can't even be trusted to write English correctly, which is my day > > job, you certainly don't want to see my code ;-) > > I used to think Linux Format needed a sub-editor. Now I know they have > a pretty good one! r u dissin t

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 14:55 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Dale wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 14 September 2011 19:59:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: > If I can't even be trusted to write English correctly, which is my day > job, you certainly don't want to see my code ;-) I used to think Linux Format needed a sub-editor. Now I know they have a pretty good one! :-) -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:03:34 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I agree with the other post about gcc but you should also update >> portage shortly after that.  The newer portage is able to handle more >> issues for you and may save you some time.  So,

Re: Really OT now (Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr)

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > Hi Alan, > > On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 21:34:01 Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> I've been contributing to Emacs in general and CC Mode in particular for >> 10 years.  I've been the sole maintainer of CC Mode (the mode used for >> cod

[gentoo-user] Re: vmware-player problem

2011-09-14 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/15/2011 01:28 AM, David Relson wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:45:58 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/14/2011 03:00 PM, David Relson wrote: Using files pointed to from BGO, I have successfully installed vmware-player and vmware-modules-238-r1 on my 64-bit gentoo system running kernel 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware-player problem

2011-09-14 Thread David Relson
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:45:58 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 09/14/2011 03:00 PM, David Relson wrote: > > Using files pointed to from BGO, I have successfully installed > > vmware-player and vmware-modules-238-r1 on my 64-bit gentoo system > > running kernel 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 > > > > However, v

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:03:34 -0500, Dale wrote: > I agree with the other post about gcc but you should also update > portage shortly after that. The newer portage is able to handle more > issues for you and may save you some time. So, I would update gcc, > portage then give world a try. If it l

Really OT now (Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr)

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi Alan, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 21:34:01 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've been contributing to Emacs in general and CC Mode in particular for > 10 years. I've been the sole maintainer of CC Mode (the mode used for > coding in C, C++, Objective C, Java, Awk, and a couple of others, and an >

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message. I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right now. Am I likely to hit some horrible snag that has come up recently. P

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello Stroller. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 04:04:29PM +0100, Stroller wrote: > On 14 September 2011, at 11:25, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > ... > >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. > >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should > >> happen. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Wednesday 14 September 2011 22:34:08 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Carlos Sura > > wrote: > > On 14 September 2011 14:09, Paul Hartman > > > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Carlos Sura > >> > >> wrote: > >> > Also, this > >> > > >> > article: http:/

[gentoo-user] Re: apache-2.2.20 - upstream config files reappear in /etc

2011-09-14 Thread Remy Blank
Florian Philipp wrote: > I guess it was just happened through an oversight because of the rushed > release. I just removed those files without ill effects. Indeed, these files seem completely useless on a Gentoo system. I have filed a bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382997 -- Remy

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread pk
On 2011-09-14 22:23, Michael Mol wrote: > like get hidden by '-Show quoted text-'. Hit reply, hit ctrl-End to > get to the bottom, reply...and not realize that you jumped past five > kilobytes' worth of stale, quoted conversation. Ouch! That (almost) physically hurt! ;-) Best regards Peter K, l

Re: [gentoo-user] Compose key and UTF8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Sep 13, 2011 10:06 AM, wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>  I am using the US layout for my keyboard in the altgr-intlk variant. >>  UTF8 is activated. >>  Furthermore I use CAPS LOCK as compose key. I tried compose key >>  sequences from /usr/share/

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread pk
On 2011-09-13 14:38, Mike Edenfield wrote: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken Yes, udev _needs_ to change to fit systemd; a tool looking for a non-existant problem to solve (me notes that this is exactly the same for pulseaudio). Well, isn't that nice... PS

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 13:25:41 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > As you can probably see I'm using yahoo mail, so obviously I use yahoo's > reply. This mail will be sent as plain text. I'm sorry for the inconvenient > of having you read emails that do not respect the standard, I didn't even

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: > > > On 14 September 2011 14:09, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Carlos Sura >> wrote: >> > Also, this >> > >> > article: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux >> > mentions t

[gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Macbook Air

2011-09-14 Thread Grant
My wife can't stand the OS on her Macbook Air any more and has asked me to install Gentoo. I did some research and it looks like there are some hidden pitfalls. It seems to depend on which version of the Macbook Air you have (my wife's is the version right before the new backlit keyboard version)

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Trifu Catalin Florin
As you can probably see I'm using yahoo mail, so obviously I use yahoo's reply. This mail will be sent as plain text. I'm sorry for the inconvenient of having you read emails that do not respect the standard, I didn't even knew there is one. Michael, I didn't reboot the computer. How could I w

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, pk wrote: > On 2011-09-14 19:04, Joshua Murphy wrote: > >> text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on >> many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of > > Yes, but... netiquette also says you should edit and trim away all tex

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard hangs after wake up from hinernation

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:14 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I run my IBM model M keyboard (1987 :) via a Belkin USB->PS2 > converter. > > This results in a problem > >   Sometimes after wakeup from supsend to disk (supend to RAM is not >   check yet) the keyboard "hangs": All LEDs are flashing and not key

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Carlos Sura
On 14 September 2011 14:09, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Carlos Sura > wrote: > > Also, this > > article: > http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux > > mentions that, I could use moonlight to get netflix working on linux. > > It lists

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread pk
On 2011-09-14 19:04, Joshua Murphy wrote: > text from what you're replying to. Bottom posting is the standard on > many mailing lists because it allows a more natural flow of Yes, but... netiquette also says you should edit and trim away all text not necessary for the reply... I wish more would d

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: > Also, this > article: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux > mentions that, I could use moonlight to get netflix working on linux. It lists Mono/Moonlight under the "Other methods that DON'T work" sectio

Re: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on > this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message. > > I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right > now. > > Am I likely to hit some

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Carlos Sura
On 14 September 2011 13:42, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Carlos Sura > wrote: > > Hello mates, > > > > I want to use moonlight, because I've reciently started using Netflix. > > I did not found in portage tree... Also, I remember that it was marked to > be > > removed fr

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 12:36:40 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: >. Hi, may I ask, how you actually reply to this list? I see you now learned about top-posting :) But your replies still are very hard to read. First of all, you really should delete unrelated parts of the mail. See? I don'

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: > Hello mates, > > I want to use moonlight, because I've reciently started using Netflix. > I did not found in portage tree... Also, I remember that it was marked to be > removed from portage... So, I wonder, is there any way to install it? > lay

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Trifu Catalin Florin
From: Joshua Murphy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi M

[gentoo-user] Gentoo + Moonlight

2011-09-14 Thread Carlos Sura
Hello mates, I want to use moonlight, because I've reciently started using Netflix. I did not found in portage tree... Also, I remember that it was marked to be removed from portage... So, I wonder, is there any way to install it? layman? ebuild? Someone has moonlight installed and working? any

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 12:16:19 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Me wrote: > > Ah, got it. > > Your kernel is too old. You need a kernel > 2.6.22 to make this work. > > If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox > > FEATURES="-sandbox" in /etc/make.conf > > (

[gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths

2011-09-14 Thread Harry Putnam
I caught just a hint of some kind of recent trouble when updating on this list a few days ago but lost track of the thread or message. I'd like to do update world and am some 4-5 mnths out of date right now. Am I likely to hit some horrible snag that has come up recently. PS - I'm already past t

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Trifu Catalin Florin
From: Joshua Murphy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi Mich

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:05:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > To continue the analysis of "the words of neil" :-) I believe he simply > forgot a "not". Instead of > > Trust me, you would want to run a udev that contained any code written > by me! > > neil probably meant > > Trust me, you w

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld >>  wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer >>> >>> wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: If gentoo follows fedora on this mandatory initramfs trail, I'll switch to F

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi Michael > I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. > BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? > > From: Michael Schreckenbauer > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Sent: Wednesday, S

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:48:33 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi Michael > > I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. Ah, got it. Your kernel is too old. You need a kernel > 2.6.22 to make this work. If you cannot upgrade your kernel right now, you can disable the sandbox F

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 14.09.2011 18:48, schrieb Trifu Catalin Florin: > BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? What you do is top posting, you post your message on top of the other messages. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Trifu Catalin Florin
Hi Michael I have 1.9GB left and it works to create a new file. BTW: What means don't top-post if possible? From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installat

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Sebastian Beßler
This thread goes in endless circles, round and round and round. In the last 20 posts or so is not one new argument pro or con can be found, both sides only repeating their pov over and over again. Nothing will be achieved by that, it is only a big waste of time and energy that could be used better

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 09:00:02 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi > > the version of portage: > > Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, 2.1.10.11 is the latest. So no error here > glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) > > USE="-emacs" emerge -av1 sys-devel/au

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14 2011, Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:49:29 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: >>> > > Trust me, you would want to run a udev that contained any code

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:14 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. >> >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should >> >> happen. >> > >> > You're h

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Sep 14 2011, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:49:29 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: >> >>> > > Trust me, you would want to run a udev that contained any code >>> > > written by me! >>> > >>> > No offense man, but I don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Trifu Catalin Florin
Hi the version of portage: Portage 2.1.10.11 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.12.2-r0, 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 i686) USE="-emacs" emerge -av1 sys-devel/autoconf - ir doesn't work; same error Nilesh, can you please be more explicite? Thank you! F

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:49:29 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > >> > > Trust me, you would want to run a udev that contained any code >> > > written by me! >> > >> > No offense man, but I don't know you enough so I "would want to run a >> > udev th

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:49:29 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > > > Trust me, you would want to run a udev that contained any code > > > written by me! > > > > No offense man, but I don't know you enough so I "would want to run a > > udev that contained any code written by" you. > > He forgot to inc

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:14 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. > >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should > >> happen. > > > > You're happy to run an important system service coded by someone with >

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi, On Wednesday, 14. September 2011 08:01:56 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the > steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying > to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it ha

Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Wed 14 Sep 2011 08:31:56 PM IST, Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all > the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm > stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an > Athlo

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 September 2011, at 11:25, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > ... >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should >> happen. > >> Shut up and code. Google it, I didn't come with the phrase. > > Just as a matter o

[gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng

2011-09-14 Thread Trifu Catalin Florin
Hi everyone! I have a big problem trying to install Gentoo. I have completed all the steps from the manual, as I have did it so many times, and I'm stuck trying to install syslog-ng. The machine is very old, it has an Athlon processor and 256MB of RAM, but it worked fine with gentoo. The error

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Mick wrote: >> On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:25:23 Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the convers

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:25:23 Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? >> > >> > Of course not. But please, do that i

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:10:40 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. > >> Become a developer. Make shit h

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? > >> Of course not. But please, do that if you think it will help to steer >> Gentoo to whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:10:40 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should >> happen. > > You're happy to run an i

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > If gentoo follows fedora on this mandatory initramfs trail, I'll switch >> > to FreeBSD complete

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:25:23 Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? >> > >> > Of course not. But please, do that i

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:25:23 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? > > > > Of course not. But please, do that if you think it will help to steer > > Gentoo to what

Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] evince - Missing EndProlog!

2011-09-14 Thread Joseph
On 09/14/11 16:53, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Tue 13 Sep 2011 11:44:02 PM IST, Joseph wrote: When I try to print with "evince" I get: Missing %%EndProlog! and the printer is not printing. Anybody know what is it? It's something do with postscript and stuff. I searched on Google about it, b

[gentoo-user] Re: vmware-player problem

2011-09-14 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/14/2011 03:00 PM, David Relson wrote: Using files pointed to from BGO, I have successfully installed vmware-player and vmware-modules-238-r1 on my 64-bit gentoo system running kernel 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 However, vmware-player won't start. Checking in /var/tmp/vmware-relson, I found the follo

[gentoo-user] vmware-player problem

2011-09-14 Thread David Relson
G'day, Using files pointed to from BGO, I have successfully installed vmware-player and vmware-modules-238-r1 on my 64-bit gentoo system running kernel 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 However, vmware-player won't start. Checking in /var/tmp/vmware-relson, I found the following message: Could not open /o

Re: [gentoo-user] evince - Missing EndProlog!

2011-09-14 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Tue 13 Sep 2011 11:44:02 PM IST, Joseph wrote: > When I try to print with "evince" I get: > Missing %%EndProlog! > and the printer is not printing. > Anybody know what is it? > It's something do with postscript and stuff. I searched on Google about it, but couldn't find anything useful. Try re

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? > Of course not. But please, do that if you think it will help to steer > Gentoo to whatever direction do you think is the correct one. > Personaly I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Failed to emerge dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r4

2011-09-14 Thread Moritz Schlarb
Hey Wonko, thanks for your answer... I played around and found that there's a place in the Makefile, where various PATHs are set, but not LD_LIBRARY_PATH, so I set it myself, and continues by hand and it worked I already wanted to file a bug, so I ran emerge again to get the build logs again,

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:10:40 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. > Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should > happen. You're happy to run an important system service coded by someone with less experience th