On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:25:23 Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there? >> > >> > Of course not. But please, do that if you think it will help to steer >> > Gentoo to whatever direction do you think is the correct one. >> > Personaly I don't think the devs (who, AFAIK, do not receive a single >> > dime for working on Gentoo) will appreciate anybody telling them how >> > they should do their jobs, the one they do for free. But that's just >> > me. >> >> I think so. Most devs are grateful for (polite) feedback, and take it >> into account when doing their work. I suspect they're unaware of just >> how much this change to booting is disliked by Gentoo users. > > Could someone please nudge them this way for them to get first hand feedback > on their decision. > > >> > No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. >> > Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should >> > happen. >> > >> > Shut up and code. Google it, I didn't come with the phrase. > > Not all of us have the capability to code, although all of us are grateful for > good code devs produce and often express our user needs and wants in this M/L. > > >> Just as a matter of interest, how much coding have you done for open >> source or free software? It was conspicuously absent from the CV you >> posted here a few days ago. > > Canek may wish to keep his reply off list because it wouldn't be of particular > interest to many and is not relevant with Gentoo being aligned with a flawed > (IMHO) design principle. > > Better we focus our efforts instead on influencing Gentoo devs and upstream > decision making on this matter before it defaults into a design orthodoxy for > Linux.
Rather than flooding the gentoo devs with a bunch of outrage, maybe it'd be better to build a document detailing the reasoning of the opinions and discussed potential solutions? It'd probably be received a lot better than starting over with a new heated argument, feeling around how much the various parties know and understand about the issue. -- :wq
