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Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:07:24PM -0400, Indi wrote:
>> So, following several suggestions I emerge thunderbird for
>> testing, and the first thing I noticed is it does what people
>> insist it doesn't do: creates redundant Trash and Dra
On 06/05/2011 11:51 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 06/04/2011 02:59 PM, Indi wrote:
>> Maybe I'll put the next person who complains about evolution on
>> thunderbird and see how they do with it...
> I absolutely love Thunderbird, but with one caveat...
>
> I love it because of its stability, how well i
> Is OpenRC going to be blamed for everything from system instability to
> premature hair loss for the next few months?
>
> You know it will.
Network guy makes change
System guy "You broke the network my application isnt working"
Network guy "I just tried connecting to the service, and its not run
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:07:24PM -0400, Indi wrote:
> So, following several suggestions I emerge thunderbird for
> testing, and the first thing I noticed is it does what people
> insist it doesn't do: creates redundant Trash and Drafts folders,
> both locally and (cardinal sin) on the remote s
So, following several suggestions I emerge thunderbird for
testing, and the first thing I noticed is it does what people
insist it doesn't do: creates redundant Trash and Drafts folders,
both locally and (cardinal sin) on the remote server!
So now in mutt there are all these redundant mail folde
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 10:16:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 21:36 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > > > This post was done that way, so let me know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This post only shows:
> > >
Alan McKinnon writes:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 18:57 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Alex
> Schuster did opine thusly:
> > A mother board died, so I put the hard drives into an old spare PC,
> > rebuilt the kernel via chroot in order to include some necessary
> > drivers, and all was well. Unt
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:20:22 +0100, Mick wrote about [gentoo-user] Re:
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
> I guess next step is to contact the offending NNTP server admin and
> ask them to fix their header munging algorithms?
I wouldn't hold my breath.
> PS. This is sent via Knode/news.
David W Noon wrote:
Well, I'm glad we have sorted out the mystery. I don't know if we can
get the sysadmin to fix the rogue newsserver.
I know one thing, ya'll beat it to death trying to figure out what was
breaking it. You are likely right tho, they may not care if it is fixed
or not.
On 06/03/2011 01:01 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> -original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Where be the hardened
> Stage3? From: Michael Orlitzky Date:
> 2011-06-03 23:05
>
>> On 06/03/11 09:28, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>> Anyone knows why current-stage3/ no longer has the hardened
>>> stage3 tarbal
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:06:28 -0500, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[snip]
> By the way, your reply started a new thread, either yours or the
> previous message broke something.
That's because I was replying to Mick's message from the NNTP server
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David W Noon wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:30:01 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
> Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>
>>On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Are we all confused enough for this weekend?
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:30:01 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
>
>Ha, ha! I'm more than others it seems!
It has been a knotty prob
David W Noon wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:20:01 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[snip]
This is what Knode is showing as header references in your message
that I thereafter responded using Knode and news.gmane.org:
Path: news.gmane.o
Both consolekit and polkit are running. What could be the problem?
$ ps axf | grep polkit
8961 pts/1SN+0:00 \_ grep
--color=auto polkit
5678 ?Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/polkitd
$ ps axf | grep console
5594 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/sbin/console-
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:20:01 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[snip]
>This is what Knode is showing as header references in your message
>that I thereafter responded using Knode and news.gmane.org:
>
>Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
Bingo!
Ignas Anikevicius wrote:
On 05/06/11 21:34, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
Thanks, I have found that, but I failed to find any documentation on
what is the syntax of the file as this file on my laptop is very sparse.
I.
This is what is in
On 05/06/11 21:57, Dale wrote:
> If you use KDE, system settings, default applications, then adjust
> your settings there. I'm not sure which GUI you use since you didn't
> mention it so this may or may not help.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
Thanks, for help. I am using Awesome WM without any DE. If I
On 05/06/11 21:34, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
> .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
Thanks, I have found that, but I failed to find any documentation on
what is the syntax of the file as this file on my laptop is very sparse.
I.
Ignas Anikevicius wrote:
Hello list,
I am very sorry if it is just a basic question but I failed to get
google to help me. Could someone point me how to set up default
applications, so automagical applications like skype, firefox and
similar would understand what is my default browser, mail clie
On Sunday 05 June 2011 20:54:01 Ignas Anikevicius wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I am very sorry if it is just a basic question but I failed to get
> google to help me. Could someone point me how to set up default
> applications, so automagical applications like skype, firefox and
> similar would unders
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:36 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> > > This post was done that way, so let me know.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > :)
> >
> >
> >
> > This post only shows:
> >
> >
> > Message-ID: <20110605183552.ga23...@gaurahari.merseine.nu>
>
> Yes, but does it
Hello list,
I am very sorry if it is just a basic question but I failed to get
google to help me. Could someone point me how to set up default
applications, so automagical applications like skype, firefox and
similar would understand what is my default browser, mail client and so
on. Up to now I w
David W Noon wrote:
Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
Ya'll lost me long ago. What exactly is past confusion anyway? I think
that is where I am now.
Dale
:-) :-)
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:17:53PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:35:52 Indi wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:20:01PM +0200, Mick wrote:
> > > The Usenet headers do not show any X-Original-References: in your
> > > message, at least not in my Knode.
> >
> > They do, but apparen
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
> Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to
> >see where it got messed up. Sorry to u
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:35:52 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:20:01PM +0200, Mick wrote:
> > The Usenet headers do not show any X-Original-References: in your
> > message, at least not in my Knode.
>
> They do, but apparently knode isn't showing you all headers.
Well, under View source
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:20:01PM +0200, Mick wrote:
>
> The Usenet headers do not show any X-Original-References: in your message, at
> least not in my Knode.
>
They do, but apparently knode isn't showing you all headers.
> The email headers also do not show any X-Original-References: at leas
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 16:48:19 David W Noon wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:00:01 +0200, Mick wrote about [gentoo-user] Re:
>
> Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
> >David W Noon wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >> I hope all is clear now.
> >
> >... as mud!
> >
> >This reply of yours (unlike your pre
Am 05.06.2011 14:06, schrieb David Abbott:
> This is it here;
> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/gnome.git;a=tree;f=status;h=ae166be0beb9b279b8afda08e19ae97b7c724272;hb=HEAD
thanks, yes ...
I am working my way through getting it all right now (portage seems to
ignore /etc/portage/p
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 18:03:33 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Mick [11-06-05 19:00]:
> > On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 13:53:49 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > this is becoming interesting beyond the goal of solving the problem as
> > > such more and more ;)
> > >
> > > Is there a way to get the default s
Mick [11-06-05 19:00]:
> On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 13:53:49 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>
> > this is becoming interesting beyond the goal of solving the problem as
> > such more and more ;)
> >
> > Is there a way to get the default settings of the listed parameters
> > above when the module is loadi
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:11:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> IIRC the approved way to do it is set arch to stable then just leave it
> alone for 6 months letting packages catch up. Keep an eye out for
> security bugs but otherwise do nothing. After a while emerge world will
> show a list that looks l
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 13:53:49 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> this is becoming interesting beyond the goal of solving the problem as
> such more and more ;)
>
> Is there a way to get the default settings of the listed parameters
> above when the module is loading without giving any additional param
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:01:27 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> I don't remember running into this error previously.
> I suspect a problem with Openrc.
Is OpenRC going to be blamed for everything from system instability to
premature hair loss for the next few months?
--
Neil Bothwick
Top Oxymorons Nu
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 14:50:00 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did
> > opine
> >
> > thusly:
> > > Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
> > > Never did actually switch from testing
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 16:43:34 Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote:
> > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> > at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty
> > rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an inst
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 13:28:40 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
> > > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> > > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> > > at. Heh, rem
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> I hope all is clear now.
>
>Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to
>see where it got messed up. Sorry to use the technic
On 06/04/2011 02:59 PM, Indi wrote:
> Maybe I'll put the next person who complains about evolution on
> thunderbird and see how they do with it...
I absolutely love Thunderbird, but with one caveat...
I love it because of its stability, how well it does IMAP, but most
importantly, how configurab
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:00:01 +0200, Mick wrote about [gentoo-user] Re:
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
>David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> I hope all is clear now.
>
>... as mud!
>
>This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in
>Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dal
On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote:
> Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty
> rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an instant, unlike
> many others.
>
> My experiences with evol
Ok, I used to get notifications in the logs about ntp syncing
occasionally, letting me know it is doing its thing, but I haven't seen
one since the OpenRC migration... and because of the below error, I'm
concerned that it may not be working properly...
Anyone? Did ntp/sntp change how it logs thing
On 5 June 2011 15:43, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Why are *.so files set as executables? I noticed that they keep working if
> I do a "chmod a-x" on them.
You can in fact make a library be an executable at the same time, see:
/lib/libc.so.6
For those that care if can be accomplished by this meth
110605 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sunday 05 June 2011 08:01:27 Philip Webb wrote:
>> I installed the latest stable Nvidia driver 270.41.06
>> & X refuses to start with the message
>> API mismatch: the client has the version 270.41.06,
>> but this kernel module has the version 260.19.36.
>
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 17:43 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Gentoo users tend to be technically adept, so I'll ask the question here:
>
> Why are *.so files set as executables? I noticed that they keep working
> if I do a "chmod a-x" on them.
Well, they are "executables" in that they are obje
Gentoo users tend to be technically adept, so I'll ask the question here:
Why are *.so files set as executables? I noticed that they keep working
if I do a "chmod a-x" on them.
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
> > Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always the other
> > way around. Every no
Am 29.05.2011 23:59, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:50 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Nicolai
> Beuermann
> did opine thusly:
>
>> Hi,
>> after updating to virtualbox-4.0.8 I cannot start a vm anymore.
>>
>> The following ebuilds are installed:
>> app-emulation/virtualbox-4.
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
> Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always the other
> way around. Every now and then I'll delete the "~" and type "emerge
> -vauND world", it always
Mick [11-06-05 14:40]:
> On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 04:51:54 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>
> > Hi Mick,
> >
> > I did a
> >
> > modinfo snd_usb_audio
> >
> > and git this:
> >
> > filename: /lib/modules/2.6.39.1/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko
> > license:GPL
> > des
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:31:21PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A victim of "release early, release often"? :-)
> >
> >
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:23:50PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
> thusly:
>
> > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> > at. He
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 04:51:54 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi Mick,
>
> I did a
>
> modinfo snd_usb_audio
>
> and git this:
>
> filename: /lib/modules/2.6.39.1/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko
> license:GPL
> description:USB Audio
> author: Takas
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >
> >
> > A victim of "release early, release often"? :-)
>
> Yes, definitely.
> One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't
>
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
> >
> > If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> > might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> > at. Heh, reminds me of my ex -- he was very pleasant to look
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
> might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
> at. Heh, reminds me of my ex -- he was very pleasant to look at
> (and a huge am
On Sunday 05 June 2011 08:01:27 Philip Webb wrote:
> I installed the latest stable Nvidia driver 270.41.06
> & X refuses to start with the message
>
> API mismatch: the client has the version 270.41.06,
> but this kernel module has the version 260.19.36.
> Please make sure that this kernel m
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 02.06.2011 19:33, schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
>
>> 1. Install the gnome3 overlay.
>
> thanks for your instructions, but I don't get any gnome3 overlay via
> layman ... how to do that? The overlay "gnome" doesn't seem to contain
> the ri
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> A victim of "release early, release often"? :-)
>
Yes, definitely.
One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't
been willing to bite that bullet quite yet. At least it's
helped me temper my obsessive tendencies a
Hello!
Would be great to have a few people test open-iscsi 2.0.872 before
moving it from overlay betagarden to the main tree. To get it installed
please run:
# layman -a betagarden
# emerge -av =sys-block/open-iscsi-2.0.872
Important: Please include a description of what you did while test
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:40:29PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> So here's one thing that MacOS is very good at: text searches. I have to
> archive old mails in off-line tbz2 to retain some sanity, my colleagues on
> Macs don't. Their mail store goes somewhere (we don't know where, not having
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:43 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> > I see room for a KDEPIM fork from the 4.4 codebase in maintenance mode
> > that does not add deep features.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, Alan. Of course kmail is out of the question, as it requires a
> ginormous a
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
> > > opine
> > >
> > > thusly:
> >
Am 02.06.2011 19:33, schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
> 1. Install the gnome3 overlay.
thanks for your instructions, but I don't get any gnome3 overlay via
layman ... how to do that? The overlay "gnome" doesn't seem to contain
the right packages.
Thanks, Stefan
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:20 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Sebastian Beßler
did opine thusly:
> Am 05.06.2011 11:53, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > I don't see the point of editing a quote actually :-)
>
> Oh there a many uses for that. Replying to specifig parts of a quote for
> example.
>
> >
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
> opine
> thusly:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> > > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
> > > > Every single GUI MU
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:09 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Stroller did
opine thusly:
> > Yes, like FINDER (actually makes windows explorer look almost
> > reasonable),
>
> You know, Finder is not as bad as you would imagine. As Alan says - it
> works exactly how Steve thinks it should work.
Am 05.06.2011 11:53, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> I don't see the point of editing a quote actually :-)
Oh there a many uses for that. Replying to specifig parts of a quote for
example.
> Unless you mean reformatting it to still fit in 78 columns
I edit quotes nearly by every anwser, to delete part
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:30 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Neil Bothwick
did opine thusly:
> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:57:45 +0100, Stroller wrote:
> > >> I thought *every* mail client for smart phones did that,
> > >
> > > No, only the crap ones.
> >
> > I find K9-Mail otherwise really nice. Wh
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:58 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Volker Armin
Hemmann did opine thusly:
> On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:53:50 Mick wrote:
> > ... as mud!
> >
> > This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in
> > Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> > Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
> > > Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
> > > at times when deali
Am 05.06.2011 11:29, schrieb Indi:
> Oh that reminds me, one of the annoyances which seems to be common among
> GUI MUAs is they create a fixed set of IMAP "folders" which one is then
> stuck with whether or not they correspond to the IMAP structure
> already established. Does t-bird still do th
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 04:35:46PM -0700, walt wrote:
>
> Thunderbird is my every-day news and email client and I don't switch because
> it "just works" for me.
>
Oh that reminds me, one of the annoyances which seems to be common among
GUI MUAs is they create a fixed set of IMAP "folders" which
Am 04.06.2011 23:03, schrieb Stroller:
>
> On 4 June 2011, at 09:45, Florian Philipp wrote:
>> Am 04.06.2011 02:54, schrieb Stroller:
>>>
>>> On 3 June 2011, at 09:59, Pandu Poluan wrote:
...
Oookay... something's wrong with the box itself...
Even Apache TS failed for the pages
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:11 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Stroller did
opine thusly:
> On 4 June 2011, at 16:10, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > ...
> > In home network, you share many types of files ! The first I think is DVD
> > iso, which is huge (too large to go through coda) and not streama
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