Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade

2007-05-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Hans de Graaff kirjoitti: > On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 11:48 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Hans de Graaff kirjoitti: >>> What I would like to happen is that the message is added to the tree >>> once, shown to users who have dev-ruby/radiant in testing immediately, >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Initial ChangeLog Copyright years

2007-05-06 Thread Petteri Räty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: > Am Sonntag 06 Mai 2007 12:15 schrieb Petteri Räty: >> +# ChangeLog for dev-java/jid3 >> +# Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2 >> +# $Header: $ >> >> Shouldn't this be 2007-2007 or just 2007? >

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-java/jswat

2007-05-06 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (7 May 2007) +# Two open bugs about the launcher script: +# https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166974 +# https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166976 +# Way behind in versions. The latest upstream is 4.1. +# Please submit a working ebuild for 4.1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtuals and Java

2007-05-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Vytautas Jakutis kirjoitti: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:00:09 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> We want to implement virtuals for Java at some point and for that we >> need to know the package that provides the virtual because some virtuals >> can be provided by the JDK or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Marcus D. Hanwell kirjoitti: > There is a template library called Eigen I would like to add to the tree. It > is a dependency of an application I would like to add shortly. It will also > end up being a dependency of KDE 4 (for kalzium). My question relates to the > licence the code is released

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Kevin F. Quinn kirjoitti: > > All these exceptions are doing the same thing - relaxing the GPL as it > applies to the compiler (or template library in this case), so that it > does not apply to works created using it. I like the > "GPL-2-with-linking-exception" license name that the gnu-classpath

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugs in packages which have USE=emacs

2007-05-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: > Hi, > > As there are quite a lot of packages that have Emacs support by > USE=emacs, I will just inform you, that the Emacs team would like to be > informed/cced about issues therein. As we have a bit of experience > with that monster, we will gladly help to clos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2007-05-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Anigel kirjoitti: > Hi, > > I (anigel) was thinking about it since a few months, but "real life > requirements" made me really take the decision : I'm retiring from the > Gentoo Project. > > For administrative aspects of the procedure : I asked to be removed > from french moderation team yesterda

Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking virtuals stable

2007-05-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller kirjoitti: >>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>> I could not find any official guidelines for keywording of virtual >>> packages. > >> They are keyworded as any other packages. You can't make them stable >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing expat 2.0.0

2007-05-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:52:32 -0400 > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> preserve_old_lib is a horrible hack that shouldn't be being used at >>> all. Don't push it as an alternative for proper slotting. >> funny, i could say the same thing for your "proper slo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing expat 2.0.0

2007-05-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > > No. It would have been ideal if we would have done it with the release. > Now, it means people *will* need to use revdep-rebuild as soon as they > install their shiny new system if they use binary packages. People > coming from stage3 would be fine, of course. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] add built_with_use_die() to eutils.eclass ?

2007-05-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: > On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:45:48 +0200 > dju` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> eerror "Your ${package} package has been built without" >> eerror "${func} support, please enable the '${use_flag}' USE flag >> and" >> eerror "re-emerge ${package}." >>

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-java/sun-javamail-bin

2007-05-19 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 May 2007) +# Time for the binary ebuild to go as nothing is using it +# any more. Please use dev-java/sun-javamail instead. +dev-java/sun-javamail-bin + signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Joe Peterson (lavajoe)

2007-05-31 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my usual pleasure to announce some new blood coming in to replace some of the old going away. Joe is joining us from Lafayette, CO, USA to help with the Gentoo/FreeBSD work. Here is how he describes it himself: "I would like to be able to help Gentoo in several ways. Many Gentoo packages nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble

2007-06-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Hartmann kirjoitti: >> --8< >> 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported >> package manager on alpha >> 21:36 <@eroyf> yes >> 21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips >> 21:36 * eroyf giggles >> 21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways >> 21:37 <

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-06-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Michael Cummings kirjoitti: > > So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has > migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no > longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? > > Anyone? > The Java team ha

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-java/odmg

2007-06-09 Thread Petteri Räty
- 1.7348 +++ package.mask9 Jun 2007 11:14:43 - @@ -21,6 +21,15 @@ ## End example ## +# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (09 Jun 2006) +# Deprecated by JDO (not packaged currently). File a request +# for that to bugs.gentoo.org if you need it. The ebuild still +

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-11 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: > Thilo Bangert wrote: >> is a herd1300 > > These seem intentional. Is there anything wrong with it? > > Marijn Yes. You use the element to mark herds. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Petteri Räty
cilly kirjoitti: > Hi all, > > I think it is worth to discuss about `Do not modify ebuilds which are > already in the tree... even if masked.` > > Sometimes ebuilds which are already in the portage tree are modified > without changing the > version-number, i.e. ebuild-r1 is in the portage tree an

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Petteri Räty
cilly kirjoitti: > On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: > >> Keep in mind that the trade off is : >> >> - our time >> - our sanity >> - what provide to our used >> - the quality of what we provide to out users. >> >> We all try our best to not burn out while serving you the best we co

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: > Vlastimil Babka wrote: >> Gustavo Felisberto wrote: >>> Any alternatives? >> Drop it from stable completely, possibly package.mask or move to >> overlay. Why should this closed-source rootkit be in stable? >> > Said the java dev > > We all use OpenJDK nowadays

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-java/javahelp-bin

2007-06-15 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (16 Jun 2007) +# We like our stuff GPL so use dev-java/javahelp instead +dev-java/javahelp-bin + signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ali Polatel (hawking)

2007-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my usual pleasure to introduce to you Ali "hawking" Polatel who will be joining us to help with the netmon stuff. Ali hails us from Turkey. He is currently a physics engineering stupid in the Istanbul Technical University and a real wizard in chess. He is the National Master to be more exact.

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Marius Mauch wrote: >> Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> mayhaps we need a new function to be run in src_install() to label >>> files as "sensitive" ... so baselayout would do: >>> esosensitive /etc/{fstab,group,passwd,shadow} >>> a

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-23 Thread Petteri Räty
For example the gnome people use the doc use flag to control whether gtk-doc gets rebuild using cross references: 16:51 <@leio> as far as I'm concerned the doc USE flag means rebuilding documentation to get cross-referencing in docs working 16:51 <@leio> also the lack of doc USE flag does not mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:11:16 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My opinion is to make it clear that the doc use flag always controls >> whether or not to install documentation and make it clear in the >> devmanual. For w

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:11:16 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My opinion is to make it clear that the doc use flag always controls >> whether or not to install documentation and make it clear in the >> devmanual. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: net-misc/bird

2007-06-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Tony Vroon kirjoitti: > BIRD is a routing daemon, like Quagga & Zebra. It was planned for a > deployment here at work, but required features were found to be missing. > As such, nothing came of it. > > Unfortunately this isn't usable to me, and likely not usable to anyone > else. As such, I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-python/clientcookie

2007-06-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ali Polatel kirjoitti: > # Ali Polatel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (30 Jun 2007) > # This module is now part of dev-python/mechanize. > # Upstream says there will be no standalone releases. > # Masked for removal in 30 days. bug 166914 > dev-python/clientcookie > > As the comment says upstream won't be r

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: kde-misc/kdbus

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (01 Jul 2007) +# Upstream describes this as: +# Buggy and unmaintained D-BUS service browser for KDE. +# Seems to segmentation fault on me on startup with current +# dbus. Removal in 30 days unless someone else takes this +# package and fixes the problems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill kirjoitti: > Hey all, > > just a friendly request: If you do happen to mask a package for > removal, please do not close any bugs against the package on the basis > that it's being removed. There have been several cases where bugs get > closed WONTFIX or INVALID, the removal is reverse

Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:28:44 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeh the PMASKED KEYWORD is for packages waiting removal. > > Is there some place people are supposed to find out about this stuff? > I've seen two rando

Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:02:28 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes. When you click the Keywords link it takes you to a description >> page: https://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi > > Sure, I'm aware of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Stefan Schweizer kirjoitti: > A good time for a fresh wind in the Gentoo world :) > > nominating: > > betelgeuse \o/ Yea. Somebody likes me or maybe it's just a clever plot done by the people pulling the strings? I want to be absolutely corrupted, so I accept. Regards, Petteri signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Davide Cendron kirjoitti: > I vote for these brave devs: > Votes happen next month :) You can nominate if you want of course. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-04 Thread Petteri Räty
José Luis Rivero (yoswink) kirjoitti: > I've just rescued the xml we used the last year and update the current > nominations. The list is in: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~yoswink/council-2007.xml > > I will try to update it often, but please, tell me if I miss something > or if there is some error.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> How is being a devrel member important for the table? I don't think it's >> any more special than any other TLP. > > It is very important in the case of Council members as the Co

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.6 / gcc-4.2 going into ~arch

2007-07-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > get your "waaait dont do it" votes in now, i plan on pushing: > glibc-2.6 ~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86 > gcc-4.2.0 ~amd64 ~x86 > in the next day or so > -mike About how many packages will break with the new gcc version? Of course switch not used by default so that's ok.

Re: [gentoo-dev] internal use only use flags

2007-07-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: > A grep '!!' /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc reveals the following: > > bootstrap - !!internal use only!! DO NOT SET THIS FLAG YOURSELF!, used during > original system bootstrapping [make stage2] > build - !!internal use only!! DO NOT SET THIS FLAG YOURSELF!, use

[gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-07 Thread Petteri Räty
David kirjoitti: > Hi, > > Was suggested I make a post on the mailing list in addition to lodging > bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/184522 > Don't know why you were suggested it but any way yes everyone should be on the lookout for license changes. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: Ope

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated extended information gathering

2007-07-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > often times when i get a bug report about certain packages, there's > information about that package that i usually ask for ... i wonder if this > can be automated > > perhaps extend the syntax of profiles/info_pkgs: > [command to pass to system()] > sys-libs/glibc /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: > On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:31:23 +0100 > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> IMO though, Gentoo is effectively already under GPL3 in that, apart >> from portage and python, all the core software is GNU. It'd be pretty >> difficult for instance, to run any ebuild with

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] should we do an EAPI bump now with features that are already implemented?

2007-07-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: > Hi everyone, > > Bug 174380 [1] has a growing list of features that may be included in EAPI-1. > Some of the features are already implemented but can't be used in the portage > tree until we do an EAPI bump. The ones that are currently implemented include > slot deps [2] an

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on >>> the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do they >>> really

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] should we do an EAPI bump now with features that are already implemented?

2007-07-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Zac Medico kirjoitti: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Bug 174380 [1] has a growing list of features that may be included in >>> EAPI-1. >>> Some of the features are already implemented but can't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] should we do an EAPI bump now with features that are already implemented?

2007-07-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:50:47 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well thinking that it will get some time to write the EAPI-1 spec and >> getting it approved by the council it will be probably useful to put >> it in init

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] should we do an EAPI bump now with features that are already implemented?

2007-07-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:26:59 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Written maybe but it should be discussed on gentoo-dev too I would >> give a week or two at least. > > Well, I believe the idea here was to get out the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > > As I understand it, merely using an eclass doesn't force GPL-2 on an > ebuild because there's no linkage involved. > This argument would make it possible to write apps using GPL-2 python libraries in !GPL-2 licenses so I don't think it goes that way but I am no law

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Michael Hanselmann kirjoitti: > > It seems like you aren't interested in communication with the > maintainer, otherwise you would've CC'ed me. > We are all required to subscribe to this mailing list... Should be easy enough to spot the thread. Regards, Petteri -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Pierre-Yves Rofes (p-y)

2007-07-14 Thread Petteri Räty
It's a joint pleasure for me and diox to introduce to you Pierre-Yves "py" Rofes. Instead of the snake people he will be joining our security team. Py originates from Paris, France, and has just finished his studies in computer science. He'll be hired soon (or maybe already was?) as a security net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: council and proctors

2007-07-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: > Wernfried Haas wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:11:56PM +0200, Timothy Redaelli wrote: >>> I have always thought that proctors/COC is useless, I vote to remove it. >> Proctors have already been removed in the last council meeting. >> As far the CoC is concerned, i'm n

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC : New ebuild function pkg_create for creating corespondent sorce tarball

2007-07-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: > Marius Mauch wrote: >> Two questions: >> - are there more packages that could benefit from this? >> > > None that I know of. However, there might be other similar packages > without a source tarball (slim chance, but quite possible). At first, I > asked upstream to prov

[gentoo-dev] Getting -project started

2007-07-17 Thread Petteri Räty
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing list and even this ML changes thread itself involved the creation of the -project mailing (the thread itself is a prime example on why we need -project in the first place) so how about we just get that mailing list going right

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting -project started

2007-07-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Wernfried Haas kirjoitti: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing >> list > > (just to avoid misunderstandings, we're not only talking about > creating -project, but al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

2007-07-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Rick Sivernell kirjoitti: > I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years > now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone > knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact > them, I would appreciate this. Curren

[gentoo-dev] Zombie: Sven Vermeulen (swift)

2007-07-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to beat www.gentoo.org/doc/en with his fingers. Give him the usual welcome with nice head shots. Regards, Petteri PS. I tried but couldn't get myself subscribed to -dev-announce yet but maybe before the next one :) signature.a

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: > Eric Polino wrote: >> Would it be possible to have all the protocols for net-im/pidgin >> turned on by default. We often get people coming to #pidgin looking >> for help as to why they can't get MSN or some other protocol working. >> It most often is because they haven't

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Jakub Moc kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty napsal(a): >> Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are >> implemented. >> >> Regards, >> Petteri > > As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree. > Plus, what vapier said

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:19:11 +0200 > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree. >> Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to >> profiles. > > What, it belongs in multiple ebuild fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Roy Marples kirjoitti: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:45 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >>> I don't actually know how to set those up or what the migration path >>> would be. Maybe devzero and strerror could document this as I understand >>> they do this. >> I manage systems with a si

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Currently there are some ebuilds in the tree that use ${PV} in description which leads to results like: Description: Documentation (including API Javadocs) for Java SDK version 1.6.0 I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: > Christian Faulhammer wrote: >> Petteri Rýty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: >>> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/variables/index.html >>> What do you think about adding a sentence or two saying

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty schrieb: >> Currently there are some ebuilds in the tree that use ${PV} in >> description which leads to results like: >> Description: Documentation (including API Javadocs) for >> Java SDK version 1.6.0 >> &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:06:40 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But is there anything that makes use of version specific DESCRIPTION >> atoms? > > Yep. Have a look at sys-devel/gcc for example. Some versions include >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make >> it impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some >> duplication. > > Got to be careful

[gentoo-dev] My answers to the questions for the council candidates

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Christina Fullam kirjoitti: > Just a reminder about nominations and voting... > If anyone is still interested in running, you have one week left for > nominations. > Most who have accepted havent told us why we should vote for them. While > that information is not required perhaps it should be if w

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > > One thing to remember, I do *not* consider our desktop profiles to be > "opt-in" but rather to be a good out-of-box experience for the user. If > you want to think of the desktop profiles as bloated, feel free to use > the versioned profile (like 2007.0) instead, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages > for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad > state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We have > maintainers to assure that a package is being taken care

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Philipp Riegger kirjoitti: > On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:06 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> So, what do you guys think? > > One problem i see is changing versions in the tree but not puting the > changes to the wip ebuilds in an overlay or somewhere else. Is there a > system to email any changes do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: > Vlastimil Babka wrote: > >> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before >> commiting a bump, IMHO >> > > Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die > because TODO wasn't around. Vote against || die - it doesn't affe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: > Vlastimil Babka wrote: >> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before >> commiting a bump, IMHO >> > Would it not be easier to roll the || die into dodoc? I know some eclass > functions die on error, but I haven't been able to find out what the > defin

[gentoo-dev] Hooks are gone from java eclasses

2007-08-05 Thread Petteri Räty
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 Posting to announce because people might not have been able to use the hooks in their bashrc files because of us using them in our eclasses. Also if you see some weirdness with Java packages this might be the cause although the patch was extensively te

Re: [gentoo-dev] media-sound/gnump3d jumped from version 2.9.9.9 to 2.9.

2007-08-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Samuli Suominen kirjoitti: > Hi, > > media-sound/gnump3d upstream did nice version bump from 2.9.9.9 to > 2.9final, and the final version is in tree now as 2.9 like it should be. > > so, I'm going to rename 2.9.7-r1 and 2.9.9.9 to something like 2.9_pre7 > and 2.9_pre9.9 and they will show as dow

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Hooks are gone from java eclasses

2007-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 >> > What is the situation regarding the hooks in general? > A user feature as said in the bug. > >>> They're a horrible solution. They don't stack and they o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > On Saturday 04 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: >>> Vlastimil Babka wrote: >>>> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before >>>> commiting a bump, IMHO >>> Sorry,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Lars Weiler kirjoitti: > * Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 08:01 -0700]: >> One thing to note.. If we do make mailing list for this. It should not >> be archived in any such way. devs that subscribe to the mailing list >> better not be storing mail in imap on infra resources. >> We simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Hooks are gone from java eclasses

2007-08-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Steve Long kirjoitti: >>> Petteri Räty wrote: >>>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 >>>> >>> What is the situation regarding the hooks in general? >> A user feature as said in the b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > On Monday 06 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: >>> On Saturday 04 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: >>>> Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: >>>>> Vlastimil Babka wrote: >>>>>> dod

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: >>> Vlastimil Babka wrote: >>> >>>> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before >>>> commiting a bump, IMHO >>>> >>> Sorry, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > On 12:40 Fri 10 Aug , Duncan wrote: >> Agreed. Within the limited scope of dodoc, under what legitimate >> circumstances might a file /not/ be there to "dodoc" for a user, when >> it's there for a maintainer? (OTOH, now that portage is recompressing >> all such

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Duncan kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:45:15 +0300: > >> Alin Năstac kirjoitti: >>> Duncan wrote: >>>> If the user sees it, it means the maintainer failed to do his job.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: > Duncan wrote: >> If the user sees it, it means the maintainer failed to do his job. The >> tarball couldn't have even been changed upstream without notice, since >> it'd then fail the sanity/security/signing checks. I think that's the >> suggestion, that it be mandator

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti: > On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 12:32 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 22:09 Fri 10 Aug , Petteri Räty wrote: >>> And you think maintainers are not needed to test use flags they think >>> are uncommon? >> I think my computer isn&

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Davide Italiano (dav_it)

2007-08-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Here follows the usual insults and introductions of our newest addition Davide "dav_it" Italiano. After realizing that we has trying to log in to dev.gentoo.org with a wrong user name he know has access to Gentoo development boxes. He will be using his powers in the Artwork and GWN teams. Davide is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] Repoman check for committing ebuilds with stable keywords

2007-08-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Daniel Pielmeier kirjoitti: > Hi! > >>From time to time i recognize that ebuilds are committed straight to > stable into the gentoo tree, especially for version bumps where no > changes in the ebuild are required. It also happens to me when providing > ebuilds via bugzilla! > > So what about addi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding /etc/udev/rules.d/ to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK

2007-08-31 Thread Petteri Räty
Matthias Schwarzott kirjoitti: > On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: >> Hi there! >> >> What do you think about adding /etc/udev/rules.d/ to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK. >> This will no longer bother the user with updating these files. >> Thus it will reduce the number of bugs triggered

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Markus Meier (maekke)

2007-09-02 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my usual pleasure to announce our newest keywording monkey. Markus "maekke" Meier is joining the x86 arch team to deal with the constant flow of bugs. The usual personal info: "I am Markus Meier and come from Zürich (Switzerland). I am studying electrical engineering in the third and last yea

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclasses for XEmacs lisp

2007-09-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Hans de Graaff kirjoitti: > I'm about to commit two new eclasses to support the compilation, > configuration, and installation of XEmacs lisp classes. In a desperate > attempt not to re-invent the wheel the interface and structure of the > classes has been shamelessly copied from the Emacs lisp cla

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclasses for XEmacs lisp

2007-09-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Hans de Graaff kirjoitti: > On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 17:33 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Would it be possible to have one set of eclasses that handles both >> XEmacs and Emacs? > > Possible, yes, but I don't think it is practical. Even though the > general steps

Re: [gentoo-dev] meaning of sqlite/sqlite3 use flag

2007-09-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Hanno Böck kirjoitti: > Hi, > > I noticed that the sqlite/sqlite3-useflags have no consistent meaning in the > tree. > > E.g. > - apr-util uses sqlite for sqlite-2.x support and sqlite3 for sqlite-3.x > support > - eix uses sqlite for sqlite-3.x support > Just the first examples I found, you ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] meaning of sqlite/sqlite3 use flag

2007-09-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Jan Kundrát kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> We should remove 2.x from tree and use just sqlite. > > Qt3 supports only sqlite2. > > Cheers, > -jkt > Does anything need the sqlite2 support in QT? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti: > Hi all, > > mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899 > > Regards, > Bene https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20899 I don't see anything in that bug that would warrant deviating from the normal 30 days. Regards, Petteri signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:24 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> mail-mta/qmail-mysql is going to be removed in 14 days. Bug #20899 >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-mta/qmail-mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:48:52 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Benedikt Boehm kirjoitti: >>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:17:24 +0300 >>> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/locate?

2007-09-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller kirjoitti: > Hi, > > we have now three implementations of locate in the tree that block > each other: sys-apps/{m,r,s}locate > > This looks like the classical case for a virtual/locate. Any opinions? > > I came across the issue when committing the new package app-emacs/fff > (whic

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-java] New eclass to support java-virtuals

2007-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Alistair Bush kirjoitti: > I would like to commit a new java eclass within the next week. > > This eclass is designed to support the functionality that Betelgeuse > outlined within a previous post.[1] > > As you will be able to see, this eclass is very simple and only uses > functionality that wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] meaning of sqlite/sqlite3 use flag

2007-09-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> how about 'sqlite' means you want sqlite irregardless of version ... then >> sqlite-2 either gets punted from apr-util or it gets a local USE >> flag 'sqlite-old' for older cruft >> > Wouldn't be better to determine what version of sqlite shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla improvements

2007-09-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: > - Use site-specific link color instead of browser-provided, for > visibility when browser default is too light. [Bug #185760] Is the value we are using different from what Firefox uses by default? It looks a bit too bright to me. Regards, Petteri signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] SSL-Certificates and CAcert

2007-09-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Hanno Böck kirjoitti: > > I think compared to self-signed, having cacert-certificates would be a big > improvement. Many other free software projects (and more and more other > pages) use cacert, so it becomes more and more likely that people will > already have the cacert-root-cert installed.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-java/java-gnome: ChangeLog java-gnome-4.0.4.ebuild

2007-09-29 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: > On 20:13 Thu 27 Sep , Petteri Raty (betelgeuse) wrote: >> betelgeuse07/09/27 20:13:33 >> >> Modified: ChangeLog >> Added:java-gnome-4.0.4.ebuild >> Log: >> Version bump for bug #193951. >> (Portage version: 2.1.3.9) > >> 1.

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