Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, I wrote: > Since most of the stuff in net-www seems to be browser plugins, > we could create www-plugins. Is the following a reasonable scheme? net-www/adobesvg -> www-plugins/adobesvg net-www/awstats -> www-misc/awstats net-www/di

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 18:49:50 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > + # killing these two on OSX/Intel will disable SSE, resulting in failing > > + # compilations, as the headers expect SSE to be enabled (Apple knows > > what > > + # hardware they run on afterall, don't they?) > > + [[ ${CHOST} == i?86-app

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted 200904042353.30988.vap...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:53:29 -0400: >> +local sources="$@" > > this doesnt do what you think it does. it's the same as "$*" which > means this function does not handle quoted arguments properly. ?? I'm confused.

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item review: X.org server 1.5 stable (repost)

2009-04-05 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Christian Faulhammer : > Repost of news item as I forgot to cc the PR project. Commit > postponed by one day. Forgot to attach the actual news item. Gnah. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://gentoo.faulh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 April 2009 03:49:52 Duncan wrote: > Mike Frysinger posted > >> + local sources="$@" > > > > this doesnt do what you think it does. it's the same as "$*" which > > means this function does not handle quoted arguments properly. > > ?? > > I'm confused. Maybe you meant something diffe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: >> i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support >> within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 >> different ideas: >> >> 1. Do the main stuff in the package mana

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 April 2009 04:18:34 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support > >> within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly > >> 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 23:53:29 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:17:56 Fabian Groffen (grobian) wrote: > > grobian 09/04/04 17:17:56 > > > > Modified: toolchain-funcs.eclass > > Log: > > Add support for all Prefix arches, in particular for gen_usr_ld_script,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 10:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Sachau: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support > >> within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are main

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted 200904050401.19301.vap...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:01:18 -0400: > what you've read/quoted matters at the expansion step, but that isnt > what i'm talking about. i'm pointing out that the expansion is lost by > assigning through the variable. thu

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 09:38 +0200, Ulrich Mueller пишет: > Is the following a reasonable scheme? > > net-www/adobesvg -> www-plugins/adobesvg This one probably should be removed from the tree: http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html > net-www/gnash-> www-plugins/g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Tiziano Müller schrieb: > Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 10:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Sachau: >> Mike Frysinger schrieb: >>> On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:07:37 +0200 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Tiziano Müller schrieb: > >> With this, i would also like to see any > >> changes that need an EAPI to get into EAPI-3. > > No. Won't happen. > > > > Can you also explain your statement? EAPI-3 is closed for new features. We want it imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Peter Volkov wrote: >>   net-www/gnash                    -> www-plugins/gnash > > "Gnash is a GNU Flash movie player." May be media-video then? > It's a browser plugin first, "movie player" second. Just like totem is a movie player first, browser plugin second. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:58:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > get a *working* implementation first and *then* worry about specing > it. once you have something running with portage, the spec should > fall naturally out. previous multilib methods attempted to spec > things out without any real code an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:26:39 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:58:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > get a *working* implementation first and *then* worry about specing > > it. once you have something running with portage, the spec should > > fall naturally out. previous multilib

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Timothy Redaelli
On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:12:09 Thilo Bangert wrote: > > 'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being > > used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? > > i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to standardize this. > having --info be the same

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-04-05 23h59 UTC

2009-04-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-04-05 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-emulation/vmware-esx-console2009-04-01 12:24:08 ikelos dev-haskell/hs-plugins 2009-04-05 17:07:51 kolmodin dev-java/jdbc2-p

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Timothy Redaelli wrote: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:12:09 Thilo Bangert wrote: > >>> 'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being >>> used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? >>> >> i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to stand

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Andrew D Kirch wrote: > I think it's best as a general rule to NEVER _EVER_ under any > circumstances emulate paludis. While I'm not personally a fan of paludis, it doesn't help anyone to post crap like that to any mailing list. Please take it elsewhere. Thanks. -- Andrew Gaffney

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Andrew D Kirch wrote: > >> I think it's best as a general rule to NEVER _EVER_ under any >> circumstances emulate paludis. >> > > While I'm not personally a fan of paludis, it doesn't help anyone to post crap > like that to any mailing list. Please take it elsewhere.

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Why is it inappropriate to discuss the poor UI, and implementation of > software we use especially in open source?  Maybe if we're closed to > valid argument against poor methodology we can fail like everyone else > who develops closed minded

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > >> Why is it inappropriate to discuss the poor UI, and implementation of >> software we use especially in open source? Maybe if we're closed to >> valid argument against poor methodology we can fail like everyone

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >>> net-www/libflashsupport -> www-plugins/libflashsupport >> >> media-libs? > Not sure, it's a browser plugin first, media-lib second ;) No strong opinion about this one. It has no reverse dependencies, therefore it's a plugin? Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Ulrich Mueller a écrit : More translations are welcome. en: The www-plugins category contains plugins for Web browsers. de: Die Kategorie www-plugins enthält Plugins für Webbrowser. fr: Cette catégorie contient des plugins pour navigateurs Web. Cheers, Rémi