On Sunday 05 April 2009 04:18:34 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support > >> within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly > >> 2 different ideas: > >> > >> 1. Do the main stuff in the package manager (e.g. if the ARCH is amd64 > >> and the package has x86 keyword, the package manager adds a lib32 > >> useflag, which would additionally install the 32bit variant of that > >> package together with the normal 64bit install). > >> > >> pro: -much lesser work for package maintainers > >> > >> contra: -needs addition in PMS and support in the pms, which will need > >> some work on their side > > > > get a *working* implementation first and *then* worry about specing it. > > once you have something running with portage, the spec should fall > > naturally out. previous multilib methods attempted to spec things out > > without any real code and they've all just died. > > > >> 2. Do the main stuff in the ebuilds themselves (e.g. an additional > >> eclass multilib-native.eclass, any ebuild with 32bit support would then > >> need adaption and of course inheriting that eclass) > > > > this is dead end and useless overhead, and i would reject it from any > > core package someone would try to merge. > > From what i got until now, it seems that all answers prefer this option, so > i would like to move forward and create some aggreement on how this should > look like or some implementation that at least the majority can accept. > With this, i would also like to see any changes that need an EAPI to get > into EAPI-3. > > So, anyone already has ideas, specs, some implementation or already working > code for this? coldwind linking to > http://dev.exherbo.org/~pioto/abi-ideas.html in his post, could this be a > base to start with?
that's a laugh. like i said, attempting to spec it out without a real implementation will lead to yet another useless pile of crap. there's no point in mandating something that is broken, unless of course you simply hate people and want to watch them twist. -mike
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