Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-26 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
On Thursday 25 March 2010 20:05:17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2010-03-25 19:34:24 Roy Bamford napisał(a): > > On 2010.03.24 21:12, William Hubbs wrote: > > The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is > > transitory (it may be a long time). > > Gentoo Python P

[gentoo-dev] up-to-date presentations on Gentoo?

2010-01-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
Hi, I am planning on going to ``FOSS Nigeria 2010'' (http://fossnigeria.org/) and have been asked to do a presentation on Gentoo. My current expectation is that they are expecting and would benefit most from a very basic introduction. If anyone has anything like that (doesn't even have to be compl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix Lite Quiz

2009-12-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
On Friday 18 December 2009 14:00:06 Fabian Groffen wrote: > As promised, here is the slimmed down version of the Prefix quiz. As > requested, I'll post the answers on -core. > > > Prefix development quiz (Zero taste) > > ** when porting ebuilds for Gentoo Prefix, one will get confronted with >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
builds that still use it. After the stable version has begun using EAPI 2 use deps, then all uses of built_with_use in other versions can be considered obsolete and those ebuilds can be removed in one fell sweep if need be. Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn

Re: [gentoo-dev] DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future

2009-09-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
stable/testing > koffice (2.0.2) 1.6.3 There has been koffice-meta-2.0.2 for a while. > mysql (5.1.38) 5.0.84 > perl (5.10.1)5.8.8 > php (5.3.0) 5.2.10 > samba (3.4.1)3.3.7 Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schoute

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] USE flags requirements (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-08-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
;, `b', `c' and possibly `off'. This is really the situation where my proposal shines. This covers the situation where you need an implementation of $proglang but don't care whether it is $progimpl-lolcat, $progimpl-fuzzycat, $progimpl-dog or any one of a number of other supp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 and "nonfatal die"

2009-08-25 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
nctions will call die unconditionally. What is the reason that we are trying to generalize non-fatal from a simple switch to a full-blown primitive that should handle whatever it's thrown? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs (for Python modules etc.)

2009-07-26 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
es). In the context of which problem are you brainstorming? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [gentoo-dev] gpe-games: new category

2009-07-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
; > They are only a few and they won't increase much in the future. > For this reason I'm reticent in creating the gpe-games category in the > portage tree as we currently have in the overlay. So what is this gpe/GPE palm environment thingy? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: 14 X input drivers

2009-07-13 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
d" by upstream? Is there a replacement, are they no longer needed, some other reason? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Problems with the current bzr eclass.

2009-07-13 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ot; bzr_initial_fetch "${EBZR_REPO_URI}" "${EBZR_BRANCH_DIR}" should be removed. If users want to get rid of full checkouts they can easily delete them themselves. Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), G

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] QA last rites for x11-libs/ViewKlass

2009-07-13 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
e. I'm not interested in saving this, but this seems to be LGPL'ed software[1], so it seems odd that it is mirror-restricted. Marijn [1]http://viewklass.cvs.sourceforge.net:80/viewvc/viewklass/viewklass/COPYING?revision=1.1.1.1&view=markup - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap"

2009-06-18 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Sebastian Pipping wrote: >>> I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger >>> part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. >

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap"

2009-06-17 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
are also intending this to work? If not, why? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ver

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
a fan of NOT obtaining PN and PV from the filename. I've > seen an approach like this used in various systems and I happen to like it: In which systems did you see this approach? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp proje

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE default value (GLEP 23)

2009-05-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
956 > @OSI-APPROVED 23284 > @other 5998 > @total 30549" > > Thanks for reading, > Mounir I always thought that @OSI-APPROVED would be a proper superset of @FSF-APPROVED, but these numbers say otherwise. Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn

Re: [gentoo-dev] How not to discuss

2009-05-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ell them. What else are news items for? As long as we provide an upgrade path from version X_years_old to version X_days_old via versions A, B and C, I think we have done our part. In fact we already had one such situation with bash and portage. Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 54 and hyphens in PV

2009-05-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
could be a package name though.) > The case you mention can be avoided with another restriction in PMS. > Buut we might as well go all the way and change the version separator > to -- or something, which would be the most flexible. That would also be a good solution though we don't se

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
gt; inherit versionator > > if version_is_at_least 2 ; then > EAPI="2" > else > EAPI="0" > fi > > Besides, if we were able to do what your code does, we'd just code it > natively, not use external programs. How

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ICS, but have very broad choices in how much we want to bleed. IMO this is a different issue than having supposedly popular ebuilds not in main tree. I think there is a steady inflow of fresh developers from sunrise (and other places). Does anyone have a chart? I'd also like to know from prospect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Files owned by multiple slots

2009-05-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
isn't unique to Ruby. Common Lisp, chicken, plt-scheme, Scheme, Haskell and Perl (and many more probably) each have repositories of libraries/applications plus some sort of package manager to install and keep track of them. Is there a general solution? Is it possible to redirect calls

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: a bunch of X stuff no one should be using since 1994

2009-05-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ways? That's just like having a genuine face-to-face conversation. Are those bad too? To be avoided at all costs? What problem are we solving here again? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://w

[gentoo-dev] pet feature: mtime preservation (was [gentoo-dev-announce] Council Summary from meeting on April 09, 2009)

2009-04-14 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ed. This is clearly a hack. I know I personally asked for mtime preservation on 7-5-2008 on this list[1] and the issue has surely existed even longer. Let's get rid of this problem already. Thanks, Marijn [1]:http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/55953 - -- If you cannot read

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
enabling tests and hoping somebody > has run them during testing. You conclusion that developers do not run tests is based on nothing. Using RESTRICT=test is not a fix and just hides the problem, so it is not unthinkable that packages with failing tests get to stable. Marijn - -- If you ca

[gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev

Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Furthermore a lot of our patches are in the sed format and I happen to think >> that's a good thing. > > My current view is that "sed patches" should o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: dev-lang/pugs

2009-03-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torsten Veller wrote: > * "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" : >> Torsten Veller wrote: >>> # Masked for removal (#151986,#171649,#239222) (23 Mar 2009) >>> # 151986 - dev-lang/pugs-6.2.13 installs stuff in /lib instead of

Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
these issues it seems completely useless to me. Marijn - -- Gods do not want you to think, lest they lose existence. Religions do not want you to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: dev-lang/pugs

2009-03-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
istence. Religions do not want you to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ould be RDEPEND=""). +#RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" Why not make it simple and require RDEPEND to be defined? Marijn - -- Gods do not want you to think, lest they lose existence. Religions do not want you to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"

2009-03-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
k ugly as hell but they should work. > > In a nutshell, don't use the xorg-x11 meta. Do you mean: 1) don't use the xorg-x11 meta if you don't want not-completely-free fonts or 2) don't ever use the xorg-x11 meta ? Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, c

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"

2009-03-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
group !OSI. That way the infos would be there, even though they would still need to be extracted by some tool. > Comments? :) Done! ;) > Luke > > P.S. I'm subscribed to -nomail, so if your reply is directed specifically to > me or you want to ensure I read it, feel free to CC.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Retirements

2009-03-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
t; upset over getting pushed out. > > The problem comes when $idle_dev has XX bugs assigned to them and they > don't get resolved and no one else knows that there are issues. As opposed to those same bugs being assigned to maintainer-needed and getting lots of attention? Marijn - --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > wrote: >> Don't you get that? > > the janitor gets hit by a car and no ones around to clean the > bathrooms. You can't fire him because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > wrote: >> Why do you think they should? > > you must have not read what I said on that bugtracker because I'm > thought I was pretty clea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > wrote: >> "right now you are the kind of person that thinks being a volunteer is a >> privilege and not a responsibility. You think that bec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
you imply that if you decide to not, that you wouldn't be able to "to talk to people to understand something". I just want to stress that this is not so. Many of us are available on #gentoo-dev-help and this mailing list for technical questions. Marijn [1]:http://xenoterracide.blogs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > The problem of ebuilds in one overlay not seeing ebuilds in another overlay, > would also be solved by the package manager NOT failing to > see/notice/use/allow > ebuilds from all installed overlays. Then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
lement are what are costing you respect. >> But you'll get to be part of the >> development process and you'll get to work with the things you care >> about. > > you mean I'll be part of 'a' development process and work on some of > the thing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
overlays. Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
developers no longer working on Gentoo. I might even argue that Funtoo is one big overlay. When your own ability to contribute directly depends on an overlay, then why are you arguing against other people's overlays? Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. Marijn Schoute

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should that file be a License ?

2009-02-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
it be > "templatized" like most licenses ? > > Thanks, > Mounir > That paste is gone/expired. Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild for x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3 is missing after portage update but required by the system configuration

2009-02-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ependency required by "world" [argument]) > > So, what seems to be the problem? > > Is it my system configuration or is it a portage issue? Both of those versions are no longer in the main tree. I suggest you sync again and that should do it. These kinds of questions aren

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:34:46 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I suppose you mean git. Since it tracks content and not files, moves >> are trivial. Git actual

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
s become a barrier to the ability to change > a category easily and without losing the history. > > -Joe Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on Free

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: drscheme-4.0.2.ebuild

2008-07-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:21:50AM +0000, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote: >> hkbst 08/07/05 10:21:50 >> Added:drscheme-4.0.2.ebuild >> Log: >> bump >> (Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-04 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
n the HOMEPAGE > whether the release was security related, and I assign directly to > security@ when that is the case (CC'ing the package's maintainers) and > perhaps pasting ChangeLog or advisory info in a comment. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: ChangeLog reversion.patch drscheme-4.0.1.ebuild drscheme-0.372-r1.ebuild

2008-07-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 04:53:06PM +0000, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote: >> hkbst 08/06/28 16:53:06 >> >> Modified: ChangeLog >> Added:reversion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 29 Jun 2008 > 18:20:06 +0200: > >> Why can't portage use its own variables and export these wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:20:06 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Marius Mauch wrote: &

Re: [gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:52:37 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Bo Ørsted Andresen wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Saturday 28 June 2008 17:03:13 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> PV=${PV/0./} >> >> to that new ebuild. This is the cleanest way to do it and doesn't require >> any variable name cha

[gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
also illegal per current PMS as PV is a read-only variable. Right now I feel that the gain of having PV read-only (catch a few bugs?) is much lower than the pain (extensive ebuild-dependend changes when the version scheme changes). Please comment. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-18 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
gt; | I want to nominate: | | 1. Marijn Schouten (hkBst) I accept. | 2. Ulrich Müller (ulm) - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-06-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
or one. I don't see any reason why this ``new'' libffi should become unmaintained again soon. Marijn Relevant bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163724 - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About herds and their non-existant use

2008-05-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
e are two files that handle people and their herds. One XML for saying who is in a herd and one for each herd mail alias on woodpecker with a list of developer email prefixes. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{l

Re: [gentoo-dev] dedicated USE-flag is inconsequent and confusing

2008-05-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Albert Zeyer wrote: | Hi! [snip] | So, what do you think? I think it makes no sense to have a no-server no-gui option, so this just doesn't map cleanly to our binary use flag system. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp pr

[gentoo-dev] preserving mtimes

2008-05-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
arijn [1]:http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16162#c32 [2]:http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16162#c52 - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)

2008-04-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
f-death. May it last a long time, Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-21 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
;app-arch/unzip" |> SRC_COMPILE_DEP="dev-scheme/bigloo" |> SRC_INSTALL_DEP="" | | Labels are a cleaner solution to this. But again, we're discussing | current EAPIs here. Labels seems to be another syntax for providing the same information as I proposed AIUI, i.e.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-19 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
: SRC_UNPACK_DEP="app-arch/unzip" SRC_COMPILE_DEP="dev-scheme/bigloo" SRC_INSTALL_DEP="" PKG_PREINST_DEP="" PKG_POSTINST_DEP="cat/b" RDEPEND="cat/b" and then cat/b would say: PKG_PREINST_DEP="" PKG_POSTINST_DEP="" RDE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
problems understanding Ciaran's proposal because of this and refrain from commenting further. Distrowatch page rankings are essentially noise. We continue to have between 900 and 1000 users in #gentoo. Try ranking that. Thank you, Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
sions. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgEyckACgkQp

[gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
/\_} instead of ${D}. I could use a sed expression that doesn't suffer from this problem (thanks to dleverton): sed -ne '\_^prefix = /usr/local_!{p;d}' -e "iprefix = ${D}" -i Makefile Comments? Marijn [1]: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217735 - -- Marijn Schou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-editors/leafpad: ChangeLog leafpad-0.8.14.ebuild

2008-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
rwise customizability is something of a laugh. Keybindings can be rewired. Simply having the same default keybindings as emacs does not make a package emacsy. Seeing as this is an editor and a "GTK+ based simple text editor" I doubt it has much claim to emacs-ness. If my explanation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: explicit -r0 in ebuild filename

2008-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
t; as used here must include 0 (and does by | the literal ranged definition), and both 0.xx and x.00 are therefore | defined as allowed, unless there's a further restriction elsewhere that | hasn't been quoted. | "non-negative integer" must've been meant. - -- Marijn Scho

[gentoo-dev] [LAST RITES] mit-scheme

2008-03-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Binary package mit-scheme has been masked and will be removed from the tree. Our overlay has source mit-scheme-c ebuilds which is the C compiler backend. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
very welcome to join us in our IRC channel. Marijn "Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad-hoc, informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp." — Philip Greenspun, often called Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming - -- Marijn Scho

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: categorizing RDEPEND to help --newuse

2007-12-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
m it is solving and how it solves that. If you throw in a free example you'll make me real happy, thank you, Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Versio

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
? We're not talking about ebuilds here, are we? So what ARE we talking about? Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Com

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Justin Bronder (jsbronder)

2007-11-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
you'll love Haskell ;-) > > You're most welcome to come chat with us in #gentoo-haskell Hmm, a mystery developer. Hi Justin, I wonder why I haven't seen you on the functional programming side of Gentoo, you being a maths guy and all. Anyway, welcome and don't let the Ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: emul-linux-x86.eclass

2007-11-14 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
o quote in assignments. But why is it standard to quote other assignments like in DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE then? Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Phase invariancy and exclusivity requirements

2007-11-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
valid is: > > * Build binary packages for a, b and c in parallel. > * Merge a's binary. > * Merge b's binary. > * Merge c's binary. What exactly is the difference between this valid situation and the previous invalid one? Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Li

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-11-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > ý wrote: >> Wulf C. Krueger schrieb: >>> On Friday, 09. November 2007 10:10:42 Rený 'Necoro' Neumann wrote: >>>> But as I think, that the uppercase version is the common beh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-11-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
, that it will do the right thing (that is: > make it uppercase). It did not do so - that's why the patch ;). > > Another way would be to enhance the comment and state explicitly that it > takes the useflag literally and does not do any case transition :) Please don't reu

src_fetch (was Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April))

2007-11-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
eparate directory. Right. These use cases are really a bonus. Having src_fetch that we can redefine is simply the right thing and I can't believe it doesn't exist already. Consider this my vote for an EAPI 2 which adds user-redefinable src_fetch ASAP. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: cmake.eclass

2007-11-04 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ing ebuilds for such packages a little > easier - it provides an ecmake function that takes care of few needed > variables, > prefix and such. I'm a bit confused now. Both this eclass and the recently submitted cmake-utils.eclass seem to handle CMake-based packages. Can someone clar

Re: [gentoo-dev] More general interface to use flags

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Drake wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> use_mime() { >> local WORD=$(ifv "$2" "$2" "$1") >> >> ifuse "$1" "${WORD};" >> } >> >> f

Re: [gentoo-dev] More general interface to use flags

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Drake wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> use_mime() { >> local WORD=$(ifv "$2" "$2" "$1") >> >> ifuse "$1" "${WORD};" >> } >> >> f

Re: [gentoo-dev] More general interface to use flags

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roy Marples wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 14:44 +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> [[ ${flag} = !* ]] && { success=1 ; flag=${flag:1} } > > Could be written as > [ "${flag#!}" != "${flag}" ]

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: modplug

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:40:40 +0100 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Another prime example for use flags with more than two values: >> >> mod=off >&g

[gentoo-dev] More general interface to use flags

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
local SUFFIX=$(ifv "$3" "=$3") local WORD=$(ifv "$2" "$2" "$1") ifuse "$1" "--enable-${WORD}${SUFFIX}" "--disable-${WORD}" } ifuse's code is much like useq's code now, but more versatile. You can find i

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: modplug

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
use flags with more than two values: mod=off mod=fmod mod=libmodplug the first for disabling mod support, the second for enabling it and preferring fmod implementation, the third for enabling it and preferring libmodplug implementation. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project <

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: modplug

2007-11-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
use flags with more than two values: mod=off mod=fmod mod=libmodplug the first for disabling mod support, the second for enabling it and preferring fmod implementation, the third for enabling it and preferring libmodplug implementation. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project <

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/deluge: ChangeLog deluge-0.5.6.2.ebuild deluge-0.5.6.1.ebuild

2007-10-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
er-ldflags -Wl,--as-needed >> >> distutils_src_compile >> } > > If you moved the filter-ldflags() call up to pkg_setup(), you could drop > src_compile() altogether to clean up the ebuild a little. Wouldn't that make binary packages cry? Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hk

[gentoo-dev] allowed in SRC_URI?

2007-10-26 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
CTARGET:-${CHOST}} host=${host%%-*} case ${host} in mips*l*)echo little;; mips*) echo big;; *) echo wtf;; esac } Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project <http://www.gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-25 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
and of course you can still > use it if /bin/sh is bash. The last one is what baselayout-2 currently > uses and I'm wondering if we should switch to the first one before we > come out of package.mask. > > I'm asking which you think are the most readable of the first and last &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: repoman - I cannot handle it...

2007-10-21 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > But like name_splitted.cpp is buggy as it assumes that a dash followed > by a digit starts the version part. See > echo ${PORTDIR}/*-*/* | tr ' ' '\n' | grep '\-[[:digit:]]' No output her

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/mythtv: ChangeLog mythtv-0.20.2_p14668.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14666.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14480-r1.ebuild

2007-10-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
package they are taking over. Surely the Changelog is no substitute for good informative comments alongside the code? Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: lame use flag, local to global

2007-10-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ld should offer lame or ffmpeg or > w/e, and where not simply mp3 (along with the encode/decode being > orthogonal.) what about mp3=lame or mp3=ffmpeg? This will also be easily extendable when the next implementations comes along (mp3=newmp3lib). Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use flags -> use options

2007-10-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
t_on_flag normalflag multiwayflag={option1 option2 +default_option} -default_off_flag", or IUSE="+default_on_flag normalflag multiwayflag=(option1 option2 +default_option) -default_off_flag". In use.[local.]desc the multiwayflag description should explain what each alterna

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use flags -> use options

2007-10-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Hill wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Marius Mauch wrote: > >>> We already have this with USE_EXPAND. Not exactly the same syntax, but >>> I don't see a terrible problem in that, and we don't ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use flags -> use options

2007-10-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: >>> "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> I imagine there are a lot more cases where the simple on/off >>>> system we have now is suboptimal. I could be wrong of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/qt: ChangeLog qt-4.3.2.ebuild

2007-10-04 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
=$2 > > Works fine in bash - and other shells. Do I understand correctly that this resets any arguments that might have been passed to the function this happens to be in? Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on Fr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/bigloo: ChangeLog bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild

2007-09-27 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 27 September 2007, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Wednesday 26 September 2007, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >>>> Who's gonna fix usr/lib/portage/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/bigloo: ChangeLog bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild

2007-09-27 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 26 September 2007, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Who's gonna fix usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh? > > what's broken in it ? > -mike Well, apparently it checking FEATURES is il

[gentoo-dev] guile-1.8 prestabilization

2007-09-26 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
t you do a echo "dev-scheme/guile" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords and report any remaining issues blocking bug 163921 (<http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163921>) If nothing serious turns up I will request stabilization in a few weeks' time. Marijn - -- Mari

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/bigloo: ChangeLog bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild

2007-09-26 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Bo �rsted Andresen wrote: >> On Tuesday 25 September 2007 12:47:35 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >>>>> # "make test" does something weird so default src_te

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/hop: metadata.xml ChangeLog hop-1.7.0.ebuild Manifest

2007-09-26 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > "Marijn Schouten (hkbst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Added:metadata.xml ChangeLog hop-1.7.0.ebuild >> Manifest Log: >> Initial commit >> ./configure --pre

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