Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Zac Medico
Peter Volkov wrote: > В Сбт, 07/11/2009 в 12:49 -0800, Zac Medico пишет: >> Peter Volkov wrote: We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Ben de Groot wrote: 2009/11/8 Mark Loeser : Also, please learn how to communicate in a manner that is constructive instead of acting like a dick at every opportunity. Looks to me this should be applied to some others in this thread first. Really, aren't there more constructive ways to communic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Richard Freeman
Petteri Räty wrote: #SRC_URI="mirror://sourceforge/${PN}/${P}.tar.gz" # starting to hate sf.net ... SRC_URI="http://foremost.sourceforge.net/pkg/foremost-1.5.6.tar.gz"; The filename that violates our policies hasn't changed between the new and old SRC_URI. Is this policy actually written dow

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-11-08 23h59 UTC

2009-11-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-11-08 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-plugins/mythdvd 2009-11-02 01:46:02 cardoe net-misc/asterisk-app_rtxfax2009-11-02 15:56:58 volkmar net-misc/asterisk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Duncan wrote: In theory that's what those stupid version string thingys are for, but it's s much easier just to forget one! =:^[ Maybe something about this should go in the handbook -- a suggestion that if one is going to use a package.unmask entry, that they copy the package.mask entry o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
none of your points here are relevant to the original issue at hand. like Mark said, if you cant be bothered to do it right in the first place, then dont do it at all. if that means packages get removed from the tree, then so be it. it isnt that hard to do it right in the first place, so stop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 15:22:19 Ben de Groot wrote: > 2009/11/8 Mark Loeser : > > Ben de Groot said: > >> Really, aren't there more constructive ways to communicate your (meaning > >> all of you in this thread) concerns, without demotivating the person who > >> does so much work for Gentoo? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 14:46:34 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:10:34 Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: > >>> В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: > And because I'm a lazy > >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-benchmarks/bonnie++: bonnie++-1.96.ebuild ChangeLog bonnie++-1.93c.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Loeser
This removed the only stable version of bonnie++ from the tree. I have just added it back to the tree. Everyone, please be careful when you are pruning old ebuilds. Thanks, Mark "Patrick Lauer (patrick)" said: > patrick 09/11/08 12:26:16 > > Modified: ChangeLog > Added:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Ben de Groot
2009/11/8 Mark Loeser : > Ben de Groot said: >> Really, aren't there more constructive ways to communicate your (meaning >> all of you in this thread) concerns, without demotivating the person who >> does so much work for Gentoo? > > If the person doing said work does not care about abiding by QA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Loeser
Ben de Groot said: > 2009/11/8 Mark Loeser : > > Also, please learn how to communicate in a manner that is constructive > > instead of acting like a dick at every opportunity. > > Looks to me this should be applied to some others in this thread first. > Really, aren't there more constructive ways

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Ben de Groot
2009/11/8 Mark Loeser : > Also, please learn how to communicate in a manner that is constructive > instead of acting like a dick at every opportunity. Looks to me this should be applied to some others in this thread first. Really, aren't there more constructive ways to communicate your (meaning al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 08 November 2009 20:27:23 Mark Loeser wrote: > Patrick Lauer said: > > If you feel you have too much time you could search on bugzilla for > > "patch" and start fixing those bugs. "Bump" is also a funny search. > > If you are just bumping random packages and applying patches when you >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:10:34 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: >>> В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: And because I'm a lazy I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Loeser
Patrick Lauer said: > If you feel you have too much time you could search on bugzilla for "patch" > and start fixing those bugs. "Bump" is also a funny search. If you are just bumping random packages and applying patches when you have no idea how the package works, we have a problem on our hand

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 08 November 2009 19:24:47 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:10:34 Patrick Lauer wrote: > > On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: > > > В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: > > > > And because I'm a lazy > > > > > > > > I'd appreciate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:10:34 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: > > В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: > > > And because I'm a lazy > > > > > > I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just > > > fix it in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: > > And because I'm a lazy > > > > I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just fix > > it instead > > Do you mean that whatever you commit to the tree is not yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Joe Sapp
Mike Frysinger wrote: > if it makes maintaining a package easier (as appears to be the case for Joe), > then there's no technical reason whatsoever to tell him otherwise. if you > dislike mixed case, then dont use it. but Joe is free to do so. For what it's worth, this is exactly the reason.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lauer пишет: > And because I'm a lazy > I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just fix > it instead Do you mean that whatever you commit to the tree is not your responsibility? Sorry but it's your job. Also it's nice to see h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 12:15:44 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> That doesn't necessarily imply that they should be used all over > >> the tree. > > > > if it makes maintaining a package easier (as appears to be the case > > for Joe), then there's no

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne neděle 08 Listopad 2009 17:57:10 Jeroen Roovers napsal(a): > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:24:10 +0100 > > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > * Masking beta... > > This masks are good if the software release is KNOWN to break > > previous behaviour or degrade user experience. Otherwise the software > > should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: > [...] we've always had mixed case in the tree and anything that > parses the tree/ebuilds must support both if it has any chance of > working. this isnt going to change. I think everyone agrees on this one. >> That doesn't necessarily imply that

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:24:10 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > * Masking beta... > This masks are good if the software release is KNOWN to break > previous behaviour or degrade user experience. Otherwise the software > should not be masked (its TESTING for purpose, not stable). > Also the maintainer sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 11:42:31 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> "The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only > >> contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single > >> hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> "The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only >> contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single >> hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) characters." > try quoting from the PMS which has been council app

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 10:25:56 Peter Volkov wrote: >> В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: >>> On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: > Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: >> nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 10:25:56 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: > > On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: > > > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > > Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: > > > >> nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 > > > >> > > > >> Log: Di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Lauer wrote: > At least I'm trying to keep these > packages alive, which noone else seems to do. If you spot that a new version is available, you're more than welcome to post a version bump bug assigned to the appropriate herd and developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 10:06:58 Patrick Lauer wrote: > So I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just > fix it instead of whining at me until my motivation takes a long walk on > the beach and doesn't return for quite some time. At least I'm trying to > keep these p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: > > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: > > >> nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 > > >> > > >> Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added > > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Patrick Lauer wrote: > So I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just fix > it instead of whining at me until my motivation takes a long walk on the > beach > and doesn't return for quite some time. At least I'm trying to keep these > packages alive, which noone else

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>: > 1) Users using ** in their package.keywords file should know enough > about what they're doing to use their own package.mask, as well. If > they're using ** in the keywords file, they're /saying/ they're > reading to handle such things, after all, why shouldn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-11-2009 16:06:58 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > So I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and > just fix it instead of whining at me until my motivation takes a long +1 > walk on the beach and don't return for quite some time. At least I'm > trying to keep these package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 08 November 2009 15:56:24 Petteri Räty wrote: > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > On Sunday 08 November 2009 15:21:18 Peter Volkov wrote: > >> В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 11:56 +, Patrick Lauer (patrick) пишет: > >>> patrick 09/11/08 11:56:46 > >>> Log: > >>> Bump > >>> > >>> file : > >>> http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 15:21:18 Peter Volkov wrote: >> В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 11:56 +, Patrick Lauer (patrick) пишет: >>> patrick 09/11/08 11:56:46 >>> Log: >>> Bump >>> >>> file : >>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-forensics/foremost/fo >>>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 08 November 2009 15:21:18 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 11:56 +, Patrick Lauer (patrick) пишет: > > patrick 09/11/08 11:56:46 > > Log: > > Bump > > > > file : > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-forensics/foremost/fo > >remost-1.5.6.ebuild?rev=1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: > >> nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 > >> > >> Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added > >> to the repository > > > > Since when did we start adding "big letter

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 11:56 +, Patrick Lauer (patrick) пишет: > patrick 09/11/08 11:56:46 > Log: > Bump > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-forensics/foremost/foremost-1.5.6.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > Index: foremost-1.5.6.ebuild > =

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Joe Sapp
Samuli Suominen wrote: > Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: >> nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 >> >> Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to >> the repository >> > > Since when did we start adding "big letters" to other than perl > -categories? > > *Very* ugly. Sorry

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 07/11/2009 в 12:49 -0800, Zac Medico пишет: > Peter Volkov wrote: > >> We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to > >> the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct > >> unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. > > > > Looks like this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 10:05 +0100, Fabian Groffen пишет: > On 07-11-2009 17:54:25 +0300, Peter Volkov wrote: > > > We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to > > > the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct > > > unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCE

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 07/11/2009 в 18:24 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal пишет: > * Masking beta... > This masks are good if the software release is KNOWN to break previous > behaviour or degrade user experience. Otherwise the software should not be > masked (its TESTING for purpose, not stable). God no! If we'll start t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Zac Medico wrote: >> Peter Volkov wrote: >>> Looks like this will not work for all noarch packages. Stardict >>> dictionary itself is noarch, but it RDEPENDS on stardict package which >>> is keyworded only on some archs. So we'll be forced

Re: [gentoo-dev] a pragmatic approach to FEATURES [was FEATURES use or misuse?]

2009-11-08 Thread Thilo Bangert
[snip] > I understand PMS/paludis wishing to duck the vars existance to make it > go away, but I don't think it's a tenuable approach- as you yourself > said above, in trying to do this cleanup you recognized that sometimes > there was no alternative. yes - however, there not being an alternative

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 07-11-2009 17:54:25 +0300, Peter Volkov wrote: > > > Sounds like we could benefit from the "noarch" approach known in the RPM > > > world, such that all these packages can also be immediately keyworded > > > and stabilised for all arches. Would greatly simplify things for a > > > great deal of