none of your points here are relevant to the original issue at hand. like Mark said, if you cant be bothered to do it right in the first place, then dont do it at all. if that means packages get removed from the tree, then so be it. it isnt that hard to do it right in the first place, so stop bemoaning the point. people have done volumes of work in the past to update random packages and didnt have trouble tackling the basics. -mike
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