William Hubbs posted on Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:52:54 -0500 as excerpted:
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:39:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> We also need to consider whether people even want it done exactly the
>> way Portage does it now. Some developers have expressed a preference
>> for a package
2009-08-22 01:43:54 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:39:41 +0200
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > > > There was a clarification of the wording after it became clear
> > > > > that there was room to misinterpret the intent of the original
> > > > > wording, and
2009-08-23 02:34:08 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:26:24 -0700
> Chip Parker wrote:
> > Since you have a habit of ignoring relevant bits of technical
> > opposition to some of your more insane schemes, I'll cite *again* the
> > relevant portion.
>
> I showed you the relevant
On Sunday 23 August 2009 02:10:36 Chip Parker wrote:
> They're the same thing. It doesn't matter if the profiles directory is
> in located in /tmp or in /usr/local/portage, the behavior of paludis
> *still* doesn't support the feature that these profiles depend on and
> portage still *HAS* since be
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:10:36 -0700
Chip Parker wrote:
> What you proposed in the bug you filed would specifically break how I
> do things, without replacing it with an equal or better solution.
No it wouldn't. It would have no effect whatsoever on how you do things.
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, David Leverton wrote:
> On Sunday 23 August 2009 01:26:24 Chip Parker wrote:
>> So, Ciaran, if your personal reference implementation of PMS fails
>> miserably when using this methodology, your argument that I won't be
>> or "am not" affected by your attempt at chan
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:26:24 -0700
Chip Parker wrote:
> Since you have a habit of ignoring relevant bits of technical
> opposition to some of your more insane schemes, I'll cite *again* the
> relevant portion.
I showed you the relevant portion. /etc/make.profile means it is user
configuration, wh
On Sunday 23 August 2009 01:26:24 Chip Parker wrote:
> So, Ciaran, if your personal reference implementation of PMS fails
> miserably when using this methodology, your argument that I won't be
> or "am not" affected by your attempt at changing portage is invalid.
> If you'd like to test for yoursel
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Ciaran
McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:47:44 -0700
> Chip Parker wrote:
>> * When loading profiles '/etc/make.profile' for repository 'gentoo':
>
> /etc/make.profile is user configuration, and beyond the scope of PMS.
>
>> Additionally, I plan to show ve
On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:19:00 Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Mounir Lamouri wrote:
> >> No. I only want the .so.62 for binary apps, thus the ebuild won't
> >> install anything but the shared libs
> >
> > You wrote a header was now private so it will probably make a lot of
> > ebuilds incompatible w
# Hans de Graaff (22 Aug 2009)
# devel-logger is now bundled with ruby 1.8. The standalone version
# is only suited for ruby 1.6, which has gone from our tree a long
# time ago. devel-logger will follow in 30 days.
dev-ruby/devel-logger
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:47:44 -0700
Chip Parker wrote:
> * When loading profiles '/etc/make.profile' for repository 'gentoo':
/etc/make.profile is user configuration, and beyond the scope of PMS.
> Additionally, I plan to show very soon that PMS is incorrect in its
> requirement that profiles/p
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Ciaran
McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
> Chip Parker wrote:
>> If this feature, which HAD been documented (in bugzilla and
>> commitlogs) prior to the first RFC for PMS
>
> As I've already explained to you on bugzilla, this is untrue. You're
>
# Hans de Graaff (22 Aug 2009)
# cgi_multipart_eof_fix is used to fix ruby versions up to 1.8.5.
# We no longer ship these versions, and all versions in the tree
# are unaffected, so this will be removed in 30 days.
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:22:54 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2009-08-22 21:39:47 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:54:22 +0100
> > AllenJB wrote:
> > > Could there be room for "fast track" EAPI's to be considered on some
> > > occasions - eg. in this case
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:39:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> We also need to consider whether people even want it done exactly the
> way Portage does it now. Some developers have expressed a preference
> for a package.mask.d of some kind instead.
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:32:33 -0400
Andrew D Kirch wrote:
> Ryan Hill wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
> > Chip Parker wrote:
> >
> >
> >> If you were building a house, and the blueprints had been signed off
> >> on calling for 1 meter high doors, but the builder had built in 2
>
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:22:54 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > Another possibly nicer option would be to add the feature into EAPI
> > 3. However, if we're considering this, we'd have to be absolutely
> > totally clear that this isn't a call to open up EAPI 3 for yet more
> > ch
2009-08-22 21:39:47 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:54:22 +0100
> AllenJB wrote:
> > Could there be room for "fast track" EAPI's to be considered on some
> > occasions - eg. in this case an EAPI-2.1 which is simply EAPI-2 with
> > the "package.* as directory in profiles" featu
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From: Samuli Suominen [mailto:ssuomi...@gentoo.org]
Sent: August 22, 2009 10:47 AM
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 LiveDVD release enhancements
Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD
images in shape for th
# Hans de Graaff (22 Aug 2009)
# ruby-amazon uses the obsolete v3 protocol which has been shut
# down by Amazon on 2008-03-31, and upstream indicates that they
# will not continue development on it.
dev-ruby/ruby-amazon
Given that it no longer works I'll remove it in 30 days.
Kind regards,
Hans
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:54:22 +0100
AllenJB wrote:
> Could there be room for "fast track" EAPI's to be considered on some
> occasions - eg. in this case an EAPI-2.1 which is simply EAPI-2 with
> the "package.* as directory in profiles" feature included?
It's a possibility, since it's zero cost for
* Sebastian Pipping :
> - perl-experimental
| * Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication - 0.100091 (Infrastructure plugin for the
Catalyst authentication framework)
Old version. Was replaced by up-to-date stuff.
| * Date-Manip - 5.54 (Date manipulation routines)
_Date-Manip_ is in the tree as DateMan
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 09:52 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
> > 2. Enable HybridISO for the images
>
> What's this? Explain!
>
>
Starting in version 3.72, ISOLINUX supports a "hybrid mode" which can be
booted from either CD-ROM or from a device which BIOS considers a hard
di
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> 2. Enable HybridISO for the images
What's this? Explain!
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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> And I was under the impression that pure-funtoo
> falls under this category: providing packages that don't exist in portage.
If you want to you can adjust funtoo-ripper to do just that on your
local machine. All you have to do is adjust the
EbuildTree._minus
funct
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> (so that smoltGui can actually be
> used at all since it doesn't take a --server parameter.)
Good catch. Just opened a new task for it here:
http://soc.gentooexperimental.org/issues/show/67
>> Before submission you can view all the data you submit.
>> Near the bottom
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> We are looking for constructive feedback and ideas from both the
> developer community and user community. We want this 10th year
> anniversary release DVD to reflect our accomplishments over the year and
> your feedback is highly appreciate
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> I use overlays for packages I can't get through portage. If they
> conflict, I don't use them.
Why do you apply such a general rule?
For instance I have been using dev-util/diffuse from the zugaina
overlay until a newer version went into the gentoo tree.
Portage tell
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 17:54 +0300, Theo Chatzimichos wrote:
> Maybe some Gentoo/GNOME Gentoo/KDE Gentoo/otherDEorWM
> wallpapers/logos/icons? I have some Gentoo/KDE wallpapers and logos
> that could be used. Or do we prefer strictly Gentoo anniversary
> artwork?
Please link to your artwork, I like
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 18:16 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 08/22/2009 05:46 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >[...]
> > Below are a few of the goals for the the LiveDVD release.
> >
> > 1. Supply both 32/64bit stable kernels
> > 2. Enable HybridISO for the images
> > 3. KDE/GNOME Desktop Environm
On 08/22/2009 05:46 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
[...]
Below are a few of the goals for the the LiveDVD release.
1. Supply both 32/64bit stable kernels
2. Enable HybridISO for the images
3. KDE/GNOME Desktop Environment
4. Speak-Up Functionality
5.
Something that looks good in sites bringing the
On 08/22/2009 05:56 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Uhm, I just discovered that there are conflicts with portage too. That
is not good. After I added pure-funtoo, it messed up my emerge -u world
(stuff like wanting to upgrade to sys-apps/baselayout-2.1.
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Uhm, I just discovered that there are conflicts with portage too. That
is not good. After I added pure-funtoo, it messed up my emerge -u world
(stuff like wanting to upgrade to sys-apps/baselayout-2.1.5).
Hopefully fixed
http://git.goodpoint.
Maybe some Gentoo/GNOME Gentoo/KDE Gentoo/otherDEorWM
wallpapers/logos/icons? I have some Gentoo/KDE wallpapers and logos that
could be used. Or do we prefer strictly Gentoo anniversary artwork?
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD
images in shape for the Gentoo 10th year anniversary release. We need
some assistance in terms of LiveDVD testers, user suggestions for new
packages & software testers since there will be over 100+ new
Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD
images in shape for the Gentoo 10th year anniversary release. We need
some assistance in terms of LiveDVD testers, user suggestions for new
packages & software testers since there will be over 100+ new packages
on this release
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Of course that's my personal opinion. I don't use
"developer/experimental" overlays, I only use those who provide some
extra packages I want. And I was under the impression that pure-funtoo
falls under this category: providing packages that don't exist in portage.
On 08/22/2009 04:27 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Huh? This is true of all overlays.
Not the ones I'm using.
Have you ever used the X11, GNOME
Mounir Lamouri wrote:
>> No. I only want the .so.62 for binary apps, thus the ebuild won't
>> install anything but the shared libs
> You wrote a header was now private so it will probably make a lot of
> ebuilds incompatible with 7.0. Maybe slotting could be useful even for them.
No.
The include
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:47 +0300
>> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>>
>>> media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
>>> binary applications:
>>>
>> Doesn't this mean you should slot it?
>>
> No. I only w
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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> Huh? This is true of all overlays.
>
> Not the ones I'm using.
Have you ever used the X11, GNOME or KDE teams overlays? Most of the
overlays around
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:47 +0300
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
>> binary applications:
>
> Doesn't this mean you should slot it?
>
No. I only want the .so.62 for binary apps, thus the ebuild won't
ins
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:47 +0300
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
> binary applications:
Doesn't this mean you should slot it?
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Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 02:23 -0400 schrieb Andrew D Kirch:
> Tiziano Müller wrote:
> > As you can see currently, most time is needed to implemente the features
> > in portage. It therefore doesn't make sense to make the EAPI process
> > even faster. On the other hand, I think it would make sen
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> This means you have change deps to || ( media-libs/jpeg-compat
> <=media-libs/jpeg-7 ) for example. Feel free to use suitable alternative
> syntaxes.
Typo. Correct:
|| ( media-libs/jpeg-compat
media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
binary applications:
media-libs/jpeg-compat-6b will install libjpeg.so.62{,.0.0} for use with
binary applications, let me know if there is a trouble with the package.
This means you have change deps to || ( media-libs/jpeg-comp
Sebastian Pipping schrieb:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> There seems to be a bit of (minimal) duplication between pure-funtoo and
>> sunrise:
>>
>> app-office/thinking-rock-bin
>> dev-tex/mimetex
>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau
>>
>> And since sunrise is the most popular overlay, it might b
On 8/22/09, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
> Right, this is called "punishing innovation". It's a hobby of
> bureaucrats everywhere.
> It could also be said to be "punishing excellence".
If it wasn't a sort of a bug (some omission in the original PMS?),
then I suppose this could also be described as The
On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:39 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is
manual at the moment.
By now a cron-based
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