Continuing on a side angle. I have a 300mhz Octane I'll ship to
someone in the US if they need more mips hardware. If you ask nice I
might even pay for the shipping. I haven't booted it in ages but it
used to work ;)
-Alec
On 1/10/08, Stuart Longland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kumba wrote:
>
Kumba wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>
>> that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be
>> maintained, let the common workflow of developers transition it back
>> to ~arch until someone has the time to keep arch usable. changing
>> profiles.desc accordingly should be done ahead o
Petteri Räty wrote:
> Josh Saddler kirjoitti:
>> Ryan Hill wrote:
>>> # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008)
>>> # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
>>> # Masked for removal (treecleaner)
>>> # Bug #192741
>>> sys-devel/distcc-config
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Given that this is being
Josh Saddler kirjoitti:
Ryan Hill wrote:
# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc
pack
Ryan Hill wrote:
> # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008)
> # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
> # Masked for removal (treecleaner)
> # Bug #192741
> sys-devel/distcc-config
>
>
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc
packages please pr
Hi,
On 11-Jan-08, at 4:14 AM, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Some of the scripts would need to be updated to work on a monthly-
basis
rather than weekly. Also, I still think that it would be good to
automate the scripts that run by putting them on infra somewhere and
having just the output mailed to
Mike Frysinger wrote:
that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be maintained, let
the common workflow of developers transition it back to ~arch until someone
has the time to keep arch usable. changing profiles.desc accordingly should
be done ahead of time. perhaps a new c
# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
--
fonts,by design, by neglect
gcc-porting, for a
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 17:51 Thu 10 Jan , Ryan Hill wrote:
If you do, I can start doing package mask reports again. I stopped when
the GWN did since I didn't think it was very interesting to -dev readers
that see the individual announcements anyways.
Keep 'em coming to -dev-announce,
On 17:51 Thu 10 Jan , Ryan Hill wrote:
> If you do, I can start doing package mask reports again. I stopped when
> the GWN did since I didn't think it was very interesting to -dev readers
> that see the individual announcements anyways.
Keep 'em coming to -dev-announce, at least. Without a
Anant Narayanan wrote:
Good day All,
Sorry for the thread hijack, but...
GWN: The GWN is currently in a permanent state of hiatus. I have no
intentions on spending another minute working on the GWN. While many,
many improvements have been made in the processes for getting the
automated data,
Kumba wrote:
So how can this ship be righted? I did a quick scan of most of the
mails in the thread to get an idea of some of the existing opinions
(while trying to pass over the arguments), and here's what I found that
needed to be addressed.
a) thanks for the post.
b) thanks for helping
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:35 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote:
>
> If nobody has a problem with making the GWN a GMN (Monthly
> newsletter), then I am willing to volunteer to get this project back
> on track. Even if few people actually submit anything, I think there
> is enough activity going on
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:35 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote:
> If nobody has a problem with making the GWN a GMN (Monthly
> newsletter), then I am willing to volunteer to get this project back
> on track. Even if few people actually submit anything, I think there
> is enough activity going on th
On 20:53 Thu 10 Jan , Marius Mauch wrote:
> - release test versions of portage-2.2, see how all the new stuff works
> in practice and adjust things if necessary
Could you start kicking out masked/unkeyworded snapshots? Release early,
release often, and all that jazz.
Thanks,
Donnie
--
gento
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
gcj is not even official maintained by any Gentoo Devs atm. No where
near close to being added to tree. Much less in the same overlay as
openjdk. Not that it's in bad shape, but there is no syncing or
collaboration there. But seems moot, as IcedTea should not req
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 22:21 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
> >
> > No clue on ETA. I will take a peek/poke at it. I need to double check,
> > but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that
> > is not the case, things like the plugin and oth
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Feel free to bring up an issue with Developer Relations. They'll
> > likely throw it out because YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. Also, you'll
> > notice that rather than call you names, which is really
> your forte, I
> > hav
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
No clue on ETA. I will take a peek/poke at it. I need to double check,
but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that
is not the case, things like the plugin and other non-open aspects
aren't available yet in icedtea. So there is still m
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:49:24 -0800
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Feel free to bring up an issue with Developer Relations. They'll
> likely throw it out because YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. Also, you'll
> notice that rather than call you names, which is really your forte, I
> have inst
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:49:24AM -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> I've not been doing the GWN for a few months now
Yes, we noticed that.
What about 2007.1? As release engineering lead that *should* be your pet
project.
--
Alexander Færøy
--
gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
About portage:
Current status:
The portage project is mostly fine, though we've missed my original
plan to release the first 2.2 test versions last year, mostly because
of lack of time on my part. I hope we can fix that within the next two
or three months.
As Paul has already mentioned, the tools-
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 07:08 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:33:40 -0800
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is why I find it funny that people even bother to listen to
> > Ciaran, at all. All he cares about is his little pet projects/teams
> > and doesn't
Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If nobody has a problem with making the GWN a GMN (Monthly
> newsletter), then I am willing to volunteer to get this project back
> on track.
Fine, as I do for some time now I submit weekly summaries of
activities on Planet Gentoo...so be assured I will
On Thursday 10 January 2008, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:37 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > Implicit dependencies waste more time than pretty much anything else.
> > Almost all circular dependency issues we currently have are due to
> > implicit dependencies.
>
> May
On Jan 10, 2008 4:42 PM, Michael Haubenwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For the implicit dependencies one could think of path-sandbox to help:
>
> Inform libsandbox which files are provided by packages both in *DEPEND
> and the system package set, and let it completely deny access to
> not-li
Jan Kundrát wrote:
> Perhaps he feels in such a way because your mail wasn't really "please
> talk about it elsewhere", but rather a "warning" (at least that's how I
> perceived it) and you signed it as a "Gentoo Developer Relations Lead".
> I hope this helps you understand why someone might have
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:08:46 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the mean time, I'll just say that if you don't drop the personal
> attacks and apologise, I'll have no choice but to take it up with
> devrel.
s|devrel|userrel|
Thanks,
JeR
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gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org ma
n 1/7/08, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is a list of interesting questions: "Are we fine?" "What are we
> going to do?"
>
> Please project leaders try to reply in short.
>
> About the stuff I'm involved:
>
> Are we fine?
>
GLEPS -
Thanks to nesyx I rewrote the glep index to use n
"William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on
Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:27:08 -0500:
> I need to double check,
> but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that
> is not the case, things like the plugin and other non-open aspects
> ar
Good day All,
Sorry for the thread hijack, but...
GWN: The GWN is currently in a permanent state of hiatus. I have no
intentions on spending another minute working on the GWN. While many,
many improvements have been made in the processes for getting the
automated data, getting articles has be
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:42:57 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote:
> I already ranted about the fact that the dependency tree of our
> ebuilds is vastly incomplete, as many lack dependency on zlib; trying
> to get this fixed was impossible, as Donnie and other insisted that
>
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 14:06 +, Duncan wrote:
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> excerpted below, on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:41:55 +0200:
>
> > Luca Barbato kirjoitti:
> >> Petteri Räty wrote:
> >>> [Java]
> >>
> >> any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:37 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Implicit dependencies waste more time than pretty much anything else. Almost
> all circular
> dependency issues we currently have are due to implicit dependencies.
Maybe OT (an idea in a very early state):
For the implicit dependencie
Josh Saddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:12:06 -0800:
> We all know that ssh is good for sysadmins and netadmins and Gentoo
> developers, etc. However, desktop users -- i.e., those not in those
> categories, which is most everyone else, li
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:41:55 +0200:
> Luca Barbato kirjoitti:
>> Petteri Räty wrote:
>>> [Java]
>>
>> any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love[]
>>
> Well having it open source doesn't mean automatically ppc
For sparc:
1. Are we fine?
Qualified yes. We are understaffed and at some point burn out is going
to catch up with us. At the moment we seem to be keeping up, largely
because of the superhuman efforts of Raúl Porcel (armin76). Also
because of his and agaffney's efforts, we are on track for rel
Programming Languages and (sub) Ada
Monday, 7. January 2008, Luca Barbato Ви написали:
> Are we fine?
PL:
Ok as it is but could be better. It was concieved, among other things, to
consolidate resources and, possibly, do discussions of common things for some
of the languages we have support for (
Gnome Herd (although my commit rate is kinda low these days)
Luca Barbato a écrit :
Are we fine?
Mostly, Gnome packages these days tend to be more stable, pushing the
complexity (and breakages) lower down into the stack (HAL, PolicyKit)
The rest of team is steadily adding Gnome 2.20.3 packa
Hi *:
Speaking for Gentoo/Alpha Arch Team (ferdy is the lead but I used to be
the status report guy):
Luca Barbato escribió:
Are we fine?
I would say: yes.
Reasons:
- General keywording is just fine.
- Security bugs are done in a reasonable period of time.
- We have a new and shiny de
Scientific Gentoo
Monday, 7. January 2008, Luca Barbato Ви написали:
> Are we fine?
>
More or less, I'd say Ok with the stuff we have in the tree already. Need more
devs (who does not? :)) that's for sure. Right now we are ~10 people for 300
packages and there are another ~300+ in bugzilla. Whic
On Thursday 10 January 2008, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> With a quick glance at portage, I found at least those ssh implementations
> : - openssh
none of those are suitable replacements for openssh.
> - ssh
non-commercial only, not tested on all arches
> - ossh
only tested on x86, no idea on qua
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:33:40 -0800
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is why I find it funny that people even bother to listen to
> Ciaran, at all. All he cares about is his little pet projects/teams
> and doesn't care if it increases workload for everybody else. I
> mean, where w
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:52:37 -0800
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I went and created a tiny script[1] to change mips KEYWORDS to ~mips
> in the tree, and created a patch[2] against the current CVS tree.
> Were the Council to choose this course of action, the work is mostly
> done.
O
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:54:47 -0800
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 09:25 -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote:
> > I never even mentioned any specific arch in my original request, nor
> > did I call any developer out. So please, nobody needs to take this
> > personally.
>
Petteri Räty a écrit :
I wouldn't say ssh is any more important than a dhcp client.
+1 from me.
With a quick glance at portage, I found at least those ssh implementations :
- openssh
- ssh
- ossh
- dropbear
- ... (probably a few more whose name I couldn't find)
This might even be worth
On Thursday 10 January 2008, Alin Năstac wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > 3. Should Gentoo even continue to support mips?
> >
> > i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back*
> > into the tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and it
> > was hell), whi
Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> 3. Should Gentoo even continue to support mips?
>>
>
> i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back* into
> the
> tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and it was hell),
> while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and
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