Mike Frysinger wrote:

that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be maintained, let the common workflow of developers transition it back to ~arch until someone has the time to keep arch usable. changing profiles.desc accordingly should be done ahead of time. perhaps a new category for profiles.desc ? "exp" for such ports ? i could see all *-fbsd ports being moved there. tweak repoman to be less verbose about dep issues for such profiles and we're set.

Sounds like a plan. 'exp' would be the 'status' field? I need to remove 2006.1, as that profile has been a big holdup due to it not being glibc-2.4 friendly (or one of the newer glibcs back in that era; I forget). Even pondering just outright booting 2007.0, as I've been using 2007.1-dev since I commited it long ago, and haven't had an issue with it really. I can then put 2008.0-dev together and use it as a launch platform for ~arch migration.



i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back* into the tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and it was hell), while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and generally not a blocker for package maintainers.

Aye, I believe that was sh's removal and subsequent re-add?

Part of the hangup lately has been our kernel support. O2 systems are dead in the water in 2.6.24, and only work in 2.6.23 if you apply a hack to serial_core (a hack that only masks a problem rather than fixes it). Octane's I can still forward port, but with the upstream author having moved onto other interests, if something breaks badly enough from one version to the next, then I run the risk of getting stuck on a particular version permanently.

Indigo2 R10000's may wind up getting resurrected, as support for that is actually headed into upstream now, so it'll be the end of patching for that system. Though the gcc patch needs fixing.

And I'm really considering dropping our mips3 (Indigo2/Indy R4x00) support to cut back on the number of stages and netboots pumped out (-3 and -1, respectively, when they get pumped out). R4x00 is an odd CPU, with a ton of variations, and of them, only the R4400 ever seems to work well at all.

The hard part is finding time and motivation. My attention span lately has been worse than a goldfish's. That said, however, profiles should be doable come the weekend, at least for removing 2006.1, renaming 2007.1, and pondering 2007.0's fate.


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