Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> People often lost the precious e-mails due to the current
> Here "SPAM"
> There "SPAM"
> Everywhere "SPAM", "SPAM"
oh, you mean like all the 'apache newsletter' messages i've received
on just about every single asf list i'm on?
> In the business world, "inbubation"/
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> As I wrote in the commit doc, I regard Mentor as more a counselor, and
> Shepherd as a a guide. Hence I think that Mentor is both more
> appropriate for the name and more understandable.
> (KenC seems to prefer it too IIRC)
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Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> You are looking for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list,
> whereon all of your questions can be answered.
>
> See also: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html
um, i don't think he's subscribed; in general i just moderate those
through, and you need to cc the a
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> As far as I combined in the last days, it seems that the current
> state of Pluto is the incubation phase. Is this right? (It's
> not listed at the incubation pages currently)
afaik that is correct. updating the web site is a pita, which
probably contributes to this not
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
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> Can someone expand on the current status?
> What are the next steps?
in the last few weeks that has been a sharp uptick in
activity at the incubator as people try to figure out just
what the requirements and policies *are* -- and should be.
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Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> A minor correction, it seems that *-get works when requesting a
> single message, (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but not for
> a range (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]). *-index and
the format is general-get.1_1000 -- an underscore, not a dash.
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Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
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> Does [EMAIL PROTECTED] work for you? It
> doesn't for me.
no, it does not. i don't see anything wrong with the list config,
so i've notified the experts. :-)
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Ceki Gülcü wrote:
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> What does it mean exactly for log4net to come through the Incubator?
> From what I understand so far, I can't see any advantages for *log4net*
> to come through the Incubator instead of LS.
code that has existed outside the asf can *only* enter the asf
through the incubator
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>
>>> From what I understand so far, I can't see any advantages for *log4net*
>>>to come through the Incubator instead of LS.
>>
>>http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html#does_project_X_really_need_Incubation
>>http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html#can_Incubation_be_skipped
>>http:/
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>
> Once the legal aspects are resolved, why adopt such a radical
> position? Is it warranted?
the resolution of the legal aspects is done by the incubator.
why don't restaurants perform their own health inspections?
it's not a radical position. the incubator exists, in part,
t
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
>> Incubation is not intended to be difficult. The Incubator's raison d'être
>> is to make sure that projects are imported, while ensuring that important
>> details have been observed.
>
> Yes, I can see this. Also, I am sure that such projects can also choose
> another
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
> Eh. I think community doesn't matter at all when the Incubator is
> simply performing accountable legal oversight. If a TLP says they want
> a codebase from the outside, and we have determined that there are no
> legal impediments to that codebase from entering th
Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> I'm still completely unclear what objection Andy is raising.
being completely serious, i think andy is not being entirely
rational on the subject. he is/was violently opposed to geronimo,
apparently has a deep and abiding dislike of anything whatsoever
that he considers to
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Noel J. Bergman wrote:
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> The STATUS file periodically posted hasn't been updated since early
> November. I am not sure what Ken's thoughts are regarding the Pending
> Issues, so I don't know if he still has reservations, or if the file is
> simply out of date.
it's a cron job. i just post it
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Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> Who is on the list?
>
> I recall Noel and Ken...
wow! we haven't even been elected and already someone
wants a recall! :-D
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> Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the
> inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win"
> this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither
> general@ nor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Given that there are many places where one can start an open source
> project, IMO it makes perfect sense for Apache to have a higher
> standard. If the company's strategy question is whether to open source
> or not, then if the dec
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> It seems to me that any honest assessment of the merit of
> accepting a proposal should include a look at the code itself, if only to
> get a gut-check on how maintainable and evolveable that codebase might be
> going forward.
why? if
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>> What if a company considers to introduce an open source strategy,
>> but the decision depends on whether the code is accepted as an
>> Apache project or not? I think they will avoid showing the code
>> before the project is accepted o
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> Anyways, I'll desist on this if it doesn't seem like there's convergence
> towards something. Like many conversations in the ASF these days the
> responses strike me more as "here's where you're wrong" rather than a
> constructive dis
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> IBM has submitted a proposal to the Apache DB project for a Java-based
> package to be called 'Derby'. The DB project has voted to sponsor Derby
> through the incubator, so the incubator can go ahead and start setting up the
> infrastructu
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> Can someone explain the web-site process? A Derby committer can make
> changes to the source pages for the web-site but does not have the
> permissions to make them visible on the actual site. Hence the requests
> to Ken to 'svn u
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> Over the last few days i composed a reply to my own comments.
> However, i have not known where to post the reply. I found it
> strange that the original discussion went to public forrest-dev
> and private [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... i kept w
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> I propose that we switch the Incubator repository to SVN.
+1
> Aditionally, I wanted to see what others think in making SVN a
> requirement for all new podlings entering the Incubator.
- -1 as a requirement, +1 as a strong recomme
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> That is not correct: CLAs and software grants are licenses,
> not assignments. Larry Lessig says that the code should retain
> each contributor's copyright. Apache has traditionally used the
> Apache copyright alone to make it clear
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okey, after discussing this in seven different directions, we
have a clear conclusion, which i'll summarise here:
1. the NOTICE file (or NOTICE.txt) gets created if it doesn't
already exist, and this gets added to it:
Portions of Apache Derby are © Copyr
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Don't Anybody Do Anything.
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>
>> 1. the NOTICE file (or NOTICE.txt) gets created if it doesn't
>>already exist, and this gets added to it:
>>
>> Portions of Apache D
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> I thought it might be helpful to give some background on the "all rights
> reserved" phrase. The requirement for this phrase originated in the
> Buenos Aires Convention of 1910, which provided that a copyright owner had
> to make
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Based upon advice for our counsel, the ASF has today adopted
a policy governing how copyright notices on contributed files
should be handled.
Here's what happens: The following notice gets added to the
top of each source file:
Copyright [] The Apache Sof
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