-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Brian Behlendorf wrote: > >> What if a company considers to introduce an open source strategy, >> but the decision depends on whether the code is accepted as an >> Apache project or not? I think they will avoid showing the code >> before the project is accepted or rejected. > > Indeed, that is one subtext to my proposal.
[snippage] i don't think i'm getting this. are you saying that, if they want to avoid revealing the code until the concept has been accepted, we should automatically ignore the proposal? 'show us the code or take a walk' ? > On the other hand, I don't want corporations to view Apache as a "channel" > for broader adoption of a new standard they've invented, a way to get a PR > bang to help the stock price, etc. i do not think that is going to happen. not only because we've been publicly thorny about this issue in the past, but because the people directly tasked with the interface -- the incubator -- take their jobs seriously and are especially vigilant. > But when it comes to projects and their > technical direction, I'd like to see us adopt policies that defuse the > political tension that often arises. i don't see that a 'show us the code' requirement is a technical direction at all. i see it as a political/philosophical stance. > One way to do that, I feel, is asking that proposals to the incubator for > new projects for incubation be able to point to pre-existing code. as before, i disagree. i have no problem with the incubator making a case-by-case evaluation of what's needed to process/accept a proposal. i *do* have a problem with setting down a policy that ties its hands, whether that policy is 'show us the code' or 'you don't need to show us the code.' > That > reduces the pressue on us to accept - instead of saying "accept this > proposal, or this code isn't released at all" i think everyone involved is strong-willed enough to bristle and take umbrage at such a thing, rather than being cowed by it. 'show us the code' could be construed as 'we don't want to even look at your code unless you let everyone else see it at the same time.' i'm not sure how i feel about that construction. - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQPRKUZrNPMCpn3XdAQHfVQQAsqsWx2dT/hm+PCAK3pxJaTruPhigctEz Lkb3dAAyMilDD7o58HPYLpl5zUS/H+SAfcXYqeg2WKDM/+V5JZLsArM0GPZmywDt uCK5lcvoQ2arfHJmmBOr0eGXwphLULaID4vw16ZlysFrQ+5hqZrPvF/s7iYc86zH lOO2jbvAVhs= =NmT7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]