Re: status of FTP Server project

I need to be able to use the FTPServer within my process (for junit-based testing purposes). Is there a way I can do that ? Yes you can (with some level of effort) instantiate Avalon components from a normal class without a container such as Phoenix or Merlin. See a class called "Standalone"

FtpServer in the incubator - help needed!

Geronimo Folks, Once upon a time, in the very early days of the incubator, a small project was moved there from the Avalon codebase. It was a bit of an unusual way for a project to move to the Incubator, and it did not come with the usual community dynamics expected of projects arriving in Apac

Re: Harmony: project purpose

If we want to integrate any new code produced by the Harmany effort into any of the existing projects, many of which are under the GPL or only accept code compatible with the GPL, and since the Apache Incubator terms allow modern BSD, MIT/X or MIT/W3C terms I think that is probably the best we can

Re: [VOTE]: On " PROPOSAL : Apache Harmony - J2SE 5 Project"

-1 I'm not sure the On May 6, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: +1 --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE]: On " PROPOSAL : Apache Harmony - J2SE 5 Project"

+1 provided copyright and trademark issues are appropriately considered. For instance, we may have to always mechanically refer the project and product(s) as "Apache Harmony" rather than just Harmony. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=8rlf0q.2.1 - Paul On May 6, 2005, at 6:18

Re: [VOTE]: On " PROPOSAL : Apache Harmony - J2SE 5 Project"

jars, nor deployed or redistributed beyond that experimental basis as Java's download license precludes that. - Paul On May 7, 2005, at 4:32 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On May 7, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Paul Hammant wrote: -1 I'm not sure the On May 7, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Paul Hammant

Re: cvs2svn: altrmi + ftpserver

Well FtpServer at least seems to have some activity all of a sudden. Who is admin for issues.apache.org ? Regards, - Paul On Jul 25, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: Just wondering, are altrmi and ftpserver still active and planned for subversion at some point, or are they more likely

Re: cvs2svn: altrmi + ftpserver

I'm listed ( paul ) as manager of FtpServer, but I can't close issues. Can someone upgrade me :-) - Paul On Aug 24, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Leo Simons wrote: Make your requests right here, if they're not handled escalate to infrastructure at apache dot org, or file an issue in the INFRA jira

Re: cvs2svn: altrmi + ftpserver

Rana, Welcome back. I was busy for the last 2 yesrs. So I could not touch it. Anyway, I have started working on it about 2 months ago. I guess it will take one more month. These are the things I have done. 1. Got rid of Avalon. As Avalon project is defunct, there is no point using it. 2. Impli

Re: cvs2svn: altrmi + ftpserver

Lets set a target date for completion of work against copy taken from CVS. People have work outstanding that is _much_ better applied to the SCM is was taken from than another. Say cut over on or around 15th Sept ? - Paul On Aug 26, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote: Paul Hammant

Re: [Ftpserver] Paul Hammant's Observations

I did not get this mail in [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I missed it. Anyway, these are the points. 1. I can see ftplet directory src and binary distributions. Which ftplet directory are you mentioning? my mistake, a cvs update -d did the trick. 2. Now I am working on maven support. When I tried

Re: [Ftpserver] Comments on the new code

The package ftplet is the basic API required to add custom user specified ftplets. The server needs slightly modified version of these APIs. Ftplet API is somewhat fixed but server API may get changed in future. This is the reason behind this difference. The following two hierarchy will clarify

Re: [Ftpserver] Comments on the new code

wrote: Paul Hammant wrote: OK, if we're keen about Dependency Injection, we'd need to change a lot. The basic FtpConfig component should have little knowledge of UserManager (and others), and no coupling to it... If we do aim for a DI/IoC approach (and I think we should), s

Re: [Ftpserver] Comments on the new code

IMHO, the basic design and implementation should be XML free and provide a straight forward API for assembly, configuration (preferably atomic) and the other stuff. Any runtime platform support can be added on top of that. Look at Jetty for an example of this approach. Now, Noel's suggest

AltRMI ??

Hi folks, So have we decided to move AltRMI here from Avalon? I only saw votes in favour so can I assume this is green-lighted? - Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email

Re: Proposal for Lenya

Michael, Folks, Dear Incubator List [...] My take (not being on the incubator PMC) is that I'd like to see the code. I want to see how componentized it is - I might like to use some of the comps outside of Lenya or outside of Cocoon itself - I'm always excited by products that have internal

Re: Incubator DOA (Re: [STATUS] Tapestry [LACK-OF] Progress)

Jeff, There is more than just Tapestry in incubator. - Paul --- Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feh. > > Incubation was a dumb idea from the start. It is busy failing in > practice. > > PMCs should manage the acceptance of new subprojects, not some > disinterested Incubator PMC. >

Re: Incubator DOA (Re: [STATUS] Tapestry [LACK-OF] Progress)

The vote on AltRMI received only one vote here (Nicola Ken's), that I saw. I may have missed others. There was a very low vote, yes. The project is quite active though. This lack of action is the real issue in the incubator, ATM. Perhaps. Does anyone want to step down from Incubator PMC

Re: Incubator DOA (Re: [STATUS] Tapestry [LACK-OF] Progress)

Greg, ... Does anyone want to step down from Incubator PMC? I'll step up (though like many I'm pressured for spare hours in the day). I promise to answer emails directed at the PMC, and vote though whenever opportunities arise. I'm on the Avalon PMC and have been an Apache committer for abo

Re: Incubator DOA (Re: [STATUS] Tapestry [LACK-OF] Progress)

> > [..] I > > promise to answer emails directed at the PMC, and vote though whenever > > opportunities arise. [ .. ] > Second, please resend any questions to this list that you believe > the PMC failed to respond to. It is possible we simply missed it, > and also possible that some of the PMC

Re: [altrmi] Bug in AbstractCompleteSocketStreamServer

Peter, Ooooh, been looking for something like that. Marathon ( http://marathonman.sourceforge.net/ ) is being bugged by an issue that sounds like it be caused by that. Lets go for START & STOP. The intermediate states were just just over-design anyway. Clearly a case of a missing or malfuncti

Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/projects/altrmi/api/org/apache/altrmi/server/impl/socketAbstractCompleteSocketStreamServer.html AbstractPartialSocketStreamServer.htmlCompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedBinder.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedConnection.htmlCompleteSocketCustomStreamServer.html

Aaron Bannert wrote: Sorry to be a nag, but are these all just autogenerated from javadoc? Surely javadoc output need not be in CVS. -aaron Stricktly speaking, there is no need at all for a xxx-site CVS module for any Apache projects. You could build the lot to the dir it will be served from. A

Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/projects/altrmi/api/org/apache/altrmi/server/impl/socketAbstractCompleteSocketStreamServer.html AbstractPartialSocketStreamServer.htmlCompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedBinder.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedConnection.htmlCompleteSocketCustomStreamServer.html

Brian, Aaron, [ ..] The rule that I've always followed WRT version control is that derived products are never placed under VC--it's redundant. Can we build on the incubator box ? - Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/projects/altrmi/api/org/apache/altrmi/server/impl/socket AbstractCompleteSocketStreamServer.html AbstractPartialSocketStreamServer.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedBinder.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedConnection.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamServer.html

Top add some historical context to this. I merely inherited the avalon-site setup for this project. I'll go with whatever looks to be the most popular way. That could be build in-situ to site, make a download, leave off completely (this is incubator), upload via SCP to site. Looks like we are n

Re: cvs commit: incubator-altrmi/lib/optional excalibur-lifecycle-1.0.jar

> Do jars in CVS suck? They do. > Does downloading all that stuff suck. Sure it does. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] already has working codebases that give a solution > to this problem to choose from. What we need is to set up the > infrastructure. Or switch to Maven. - Paul _

Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/projects/altrmi/api/org/apache/altrmi/server/impl/socket AbstractCompleteSocketStreamServer.html AbstractPartialSocketStreamServer.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedBinder.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedConnection.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamServer.html

> > can the docs be reproduced locally into the same usable format > > as they exist on the site, using a tool that anyone reading > > the docs would automatically have? > > yes. > > with that said, I like having javadocs on a website. For new projects, > I will often go look at the online javad

Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/projects/altrmi/api/org/apache/altrmi/server/impl/socket AbstractCompleteSocketStreamServer.html AbstractPartialSocketStreamServer.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedBinder.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamPipedConnection.html CompleteSocketCustomStreamServer.html

Nicola, > Well, Gump does it already. > > Make your build produce the javadocs, add the tag in the > descriptor and it will publish them on the Gump results site every night. > > It doens't solve the problem that users sometimes need the released > version javadocs, but it's a good start. >

FtpServer

Folks, Reporting back from the Avalon PMC (Nicola and myself on the PMC), and after having gained the concensus of the committers for Avalon, we have decided that a more appropriate home for our most excellent FtpServer server app would be here in incubator. Alternatives were discussed, but In

Re: Website update

Nicola, I'd propose that Sam sets up FTPServer and AltRMI projects for automatic updates by his script, as this is how was initially requested by Paul and how we are used to at Jakarta. If there is no objection, please go ahead Sam. +1 We'll keep the main site manually updated though. Not sur

Re: [VOTE] Sam Ruby to join Incubator (was re: Website update)

Can I get voted into the incubator group? I think most people around here know who I am ;-) ...and I have been subscribed since the beginning and do participate in incubation activities... ...besides, I need access if I am going to help out with the cvs updates. You not got karma for everywh

[Vote] Paul Hammant on to PMC of Incubator.

My credentials are that I've been here (Apache) for three years or so, I am currently a member of the PMC of Avalon and have a track record of dabbling in many many sub-projects there. More than many I've polinated across many of those projects and encouraged newbies in their efforts. One of

Re: [vote] XMLBeans to enter XML incubation [was: Re: Vote for XMLBeans proposal in the XML Project (was RE: Vote for XMLBeans proposal)]

> > On behalf of the other committers, I would like to ask the XML PMC to > > consider accepting XMLBeans into the XML project. We expect to address > > any remaining concerns that the community has during the incubation > > period. > > Dear committers, > > as outlined in the xml.apache.org ch

Re: Some sparse nots about changes to the incubation process

Nicola, > Looking at how Lenya is now incubating, here are some notes, that aim to > resolve some problems that have arised in incubation. Lenya is marked (at least in CVS copy opf xdocs) as being affiliated to Incubator. It's code is in Cocoon CVS. > 1,2,3,4,5 What is the problem you are tr

Re: Some sparse nots about changes to the incubation process

Nicola, > > What is the problem you are trying to solve here? > > There have been discussions on the PMC lists; mainly the problem is > about having a project look like and act like a normal Apache project, > while in fact it's not. It's *becoming* an Apache Project, but it might > as well fa

Re: Some sparse nots about changes to the incubation process

Nicola, > As I told Steven some mails back, I understand the point. Hence I agree > with the incubator-projectname CVS module name and separate mailing > list(s) if the project is big enough (as I gather this is). > > Here is a rewrite of those points: > > ... > > 4. Making the incubating pro

Re: Some sparse nots about changes to the incubation process

Nicola, ... No change necessary. ... As is happening presently. Nope. @see http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/community/mailing-lists.html No Incubator logo, no @incubator.apache.org mailing lists, no reference to the incubation status. I stand corrected. > No need for vote? These are sparse

Re: Board Report

Jim, Finally, I have noted my intention to step down as PMC Chair, [...] For what it is worth I though the light touch on Incubator was working well. Our biggest problems have been those of expectations of applying groups. The problem was one that affected general@ before us, so almost no-probl

Re: xmlbeans project

Ted, Ok, Is the issue here being @xml vs being @incubator? If they need to be @incubator that's totally fine with me. Or is there something that I'm missing? IIUC it's all there is to it. If you look at this message in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list it seems clear that they went into

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeansproject )

Folks, It seems there is enough discord over XMLBeans here, to warrant letting one slide for the sake of the peace. If CVS is set-up, let it be as is. If Mail lists are set-up, let them be as they are. - - - For future projects the PMC has decided that whilst in incubator, how about the follow

Incubator PMC chair.

Tis probably not the done thing to nominate yerself for PMC chair, but given that we have a vacancy, and nobody is popping my name into the fray, I'd like to propose me. Who Am I ? * Paul Hammant? Aged 35, London based consultant * PMC Member for Incubator for a couple of months. * A

Re: Cron job to update incubator docs?

Jeff, For the xml-site, avalon-site (and I assume jakarta-site?) modules, there is a cron job that synchronises daedalus with the CVS module contents. I think this is Sam Ruby's script. Does anyone know if a similar cron job exists for incubator-site, or does someone have to do a 'cvs update' in d

Re: Updating the incubator site (Re: [geronimo] geronimo website)

Greg, Paul -- please set your umask [on login] to enable group-write on the files in /www/incubator.apache.org. It is making it very difficult for others to update the site :-) Will do. -ph -- http://www.thoughtworks.com -> The art of heavy lifting. Home for many Agile practicing, Open Source

Re: Project involvement

Tetsuya, Is there any chance you chould (cheekily) rewrite the URL listed to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html from http://incubator.apache.org ? It might (if we improve the page gradually) stave off a lot of this newbieism. Tis very interesting the number of postings we are g

Re: Project involvement

Tetsuya P.S. Also, I think this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html is better to be slightly changed. XMLBeans: http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ ;-) Done. -ph -- http://www.thoughtworks.com -> The art of heavy lifting. Home for many Agile practicing, Open Source activists...

Re: [For All] Participation in Geronimo

Place holding geronimo page put up -> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html -ph Welcome everyone that has expressed interest in the Apache Geronimo project. As it was just announced today, we are just getting started - please watch this mail list, as this is where we'll be doing

Re: [PROPOSAL] An Apache J2EE server project

Geir, +1 If voting on this is required at all. The Board deems this strategic, and thus I believe it is in already. A vertable who's who of J2EE computing seems to be on the ticket, Geronimo! - Paul Hammant Incubator PMC Proposal for an Apache J2EE server pr

Re: Updating the incubator site (Re: [geronimo] geronimo website)

> I've added a page documenting this. When the site refreshes, it will > appear at: > > http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html Site now updated. -ph Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Y

Re: JBoss people are asking to review the code

And also, should this happen before the code is posted in a CVS repository. Hen On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Ceki [iso-8859-1] G?lc? wrote: Hello, I have received a request from Sacha Labourey (from the JBoss group) to review the existing code in our J2EE project to check whether there any IP issues

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

Richard , I think the vote is restricted to PMC and board members (my +1 for the former) rather than committers (in waiting or otherwise), but welcome aboard anyway :-) - Paul +1 James Strachan wrote: Wow. There's already been a ton of mail and its not even been 24 hours of being public y

Re: Updating the incubator site (Re: [geronimo] geronimo website)

Geir, http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html Site now updated. Thx - problem is, I didn't check in the html and pdf - I figured that you'd use forrest to regen. Can it be done again? This time genned and updated. Great work. Sigh, my hastily penned words did not last long! - Pau

Re: Updating the incubator site (Re: [geronimo] geronimo website)

Greg, Paul -- please set your umask [on login] to enable group-write on the files in /www/incubator.apache.org. It is making it very difficult for others to update the site :-) I've 755'd all in my name. I think that is enough.. - Paul -- http://www.thoughtworks.com -> The art of heavy liftin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creating graveyard.apache.org

Andy, What are we planning to put in the morgue ? - Paul What about "morgue". The things may be dead, but the living still want to poke them about a bit before they are finally buried.. or perhaps brought back to life again in the "return-of-the-living-dead.apache.org" project. -- http

Re: JIRA @ ASF

Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we couldn't install JIRA at Apache. I volunteer :) Hacking JIRA is my day job. I don't really see the need though. Bob is doing a fine job hosting JIRA on werken.com. I'm sure that backups to ASF hardware could be arrange

Re: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)

Jeff, I think the 'empowered' part is where Bugzilla falls down. I don't know about Scarab, but JIRA administration is mostly done through the web interface. Project-specific admins can be specified, who are allowed to create new versions/components for their project. Don't forget that the im

Re: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

Sascha, Yes, thats ok. I just want to make sure that at least one of our developers needs to be a committer for the project. A small problem Apache is concerned that teams arrive, and healthy communitys form and continue. The manner in which the project arrives drives how many (if any) c

Re: Proposal: JaxMe as an implementation of JAXB

+1 Proviso :- CVS repos should be incubator prefixed not ws .. ws.apache.org should be incubator.apache.org Regards, - Paul [ Incubator PMC member, not in this reply speaking on behalf of the PMC ] Hello, in compliance with a previous vote on webservices-general (see http://marc.theaimsgroup

Re: Official Apache Directory Project Proposal Submission

Noel, I would personally recommend to ask the hsqldb guys (http://hsqldb.sf.net) Absolutely. I had that in my original post, pre-editting. The license is compatible except, as I understand it, for the fact that the original author wants his name Thomas works for a commercial RDBMS compan

Re: Proposal: JaxMe as an implementation of JAXB

Nicola, Section 4: identify the initial set of committers # Jochen Wiedmann (JaxMe? project founder, formerly perl.apache.org) # Robert Burrell Donkin (jakarta.apache.org/commons) With a couple of Apache old hands on board, perhaps the Incubator PMC can have a light steerage of this one. Rober

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

== == == == == == == == == == == == == == Note: "Who is Nicola Ken Barozzi?" ... http://www.apache.org/~nicolaken/ ... http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html "Who is Ken Coar?" ... http://www.apache.org/~coar/ ... http://ken.coar.org/ "Who is Paul Hammant?&qu

My candidacy for Incubator PMC chair.

As with the others I nominated myself :-) After Nicola, but before Ken. http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgId=793128 Just a reminder that I'm not some rumor, and that I am up for it :-) I stand for ... * helping projects/teams come in, provided the fit is good. * ensurin

Re: XNode 1.1 API submission

Murray, Please have a little patience with us dude. We're embroilled in discussion on PMC chair, and other incoming projects presently. - Paul Since I've had no reply to my request, could somebody at least point me to any existing process by which submissions to the incubator are made? I reali

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

In ThoughtWorks we try to pair (no need to introduce XP is there?) on as much as possible... works well. It can even work distributed. - ph Hi, On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:51:13 +0200 "Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought the same thing. Also, to tell the truth, I think that in

Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator

23, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: I took a peek at plexus and picocontainer mailing lists. One thing of note is that there seems to have been little discussion on the picocontainer lists about a move to Apache. Perhaps discussions were offline, but it's not clear to me how their

Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator

But not all favorably it appears... Was there a particular response you were trying to illicit with that quote? Yes. It's called knowledge and background. What do you want to know? And I can provide any background you feel people should know about. You can't honestly expect to gat

Apache Composer - vote outcome

In Favor (+1) James Strachan Bertrand Delacretaz Jukka Zitting Martijn Dashorst Leo Simons Davanum Srinivas Robert Burrell Donkin Craig L Russell Eelco Hillenius Matt Hogstrom Justin Erenkrantz J Aaron Farr Kevan Miller (with come comments about off-list activity - hop

Re: [VOTE] Retire AltRMI

The AltRMI podling, has become stagnant. Here is a vote to move it into retirement. [ ] -1 : It lives on, you someone missed my recent commits on it last week [ ] 0 : I don't do fall cleansing [ ] +1 : Move to retirement +1 -Paul -

Re: [VOTE] Retire AltRMI

The mentor and lead (cough) I mean person who made most commits. I've also voted +1 for retirement@ Apache. There are tons of things wrong with AltRMI that precluded a 1.0 release. That notwithstanding the fact that it went out in a couple of releases of http://enterpriseobjectbroker.org/