But not all favorably it appears...


Was there a particular response you were trying to illicit with that quote?


Yes. It's called knowledge and background.


What do you want to know? And I can provide any background you feel people should know about.

You can't honestly expect to gather a whole lot from a cheeky remark uttered 4 years ago.


It's really not all that; I'm not sure what you're getting at.
The proposal makes note of the fact that several people are Apache
committers. Sometimes, people involved in Incubator podlings need
to make tough choices and decisions (like whether to tank it
or not should that ever happen), and so any background which
is appropriate to that discussion should be brought up and out
at the start, rather than it being a potential issue latter
on.


Yup its true that I wrote that. It is mitigated somewhat in successive sentences I think, and people (including Jim) that were around at the time will remember that I took a stance between two protagonists who were diametrically opposed on extension agenda for Avalon. I tried to implore the group to search for common ground in order to let the (ill fated) project go forward. I did not agree with the boards decision then, but respected its right to make that decision. Perhaps it was inappropriate to rake it over in a 'bio' segment for myself. Or perhaps it would have been more appropriate to remove that reference years ago, when the event in question was less important to me. Thus the obvious conclusion - fix it now (watch for changes).

Since that project schism, Inversion of Control (and its subset Dependency Injection) have gone mainstream for Java - even Sun have noticed ;-). The fate of the idea is no longer dependent on harmony of one project.

I'm four years older now and much more able to spot the early signs of discord, and leverage better techniques for keeping all happy and joined-up in a common direction. Not that I'll be leading 'Apache Composer' of course.

Regards,

- Paul



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