Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:45 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How about a brand new idea? >> >> Lay down a Milestone-style chart of what it takes to operate as an ASF >> project. Demonstrate community of meritocracy, add committers or ppmc >> membe

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There are maven plugins that can validate the checksums of 3rd party >> dependencies. > > Uhhh... Call me stupid, but how can checksum solve anything other than > assuring that the download work

RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Santhosh Srinivasan
+1 Santhosh -Original Message- From: Olga Natkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject Pig Developers and Mentors, Pig has been

Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread tang9527
+1 2008/10/7 Santhosh Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > +1 > > Santhosh > > -Original Message- > From: Olga Natkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [VOTE] Pig gradu

Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Daniel
+1 Daniel - Original Message - From: "Olga Natkovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject Pig Developers and Mentors, Pig has been incubating for over a year

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:51 AM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) is required to be an apache > committer? Since when? that is my understanding. The NDA to get access to the TCK for instance ? I always thought you need to be a committer. At least in MyFac

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread James Carman
A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) is required to be an apache committer? Since when? On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-07 Thread Hiram Chirino
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There are maven plugins that can validate the checksums of 3rd party >> dependencies. > > Uhhh... Call me stupid, but how can checksum solve an

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
Hi Matthias, Yeap, no need to rush. Who is responsible for initiating the VOTE mail? It is ok for me to start a vote begining of the next week. Thanks for clearly explaining what is NDA and what is used for. Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be > part of the EG? no, that is an Apache thing. You need to be committer to sign the NDA. The NDA on the other hand gives you access to TCK etc.

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Matthias, > > Yeap, no need to rush. Who is responsible for initiating the VOTE mail? It is > ok for me to start a vote begining of the next week. I'd expect it is you :-) Since you are the founder / father of OpenWebBe

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-07 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because we would be including the checksum in the source code of the > project that needs the dependency. Is the idea to do this in the POM or similar? Having something like: commons-lang co

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
How to get or sign this NDA to view current draft spec? Is it required to be part of the EG? Gurkan - Original Message From: Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 10:23:22 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-07 Thread Upayavira
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 04:51 -0400, James Carman wrote: > A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) is required to be an apache > committer? Since when? No. The other way around. If you want to sign an NDA agreement in relation to gaining access to a TCK or something, you need to be a committer. Only commi

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-07 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 13:45 -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > How about a brand new idea? > > Lay down a Milestone-style chart of what it takes to operate as an ASF > project. Demonstrate community of meritocracy, add committers or ppmc > members based on contributions, complete IP review, an

RE: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Pradeep Kamath
+1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject +1 2008/10/7 Santhosh Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-10-07 Thread Doug Cutting
Jason van Zyl wrote: The central repository is the Maven PMC's business. What results will be public policy but we'd like to avoid the banter of the misinformed so we can arrive at a decision quickly. I'd love to avoid the banter of the misinformed too, but that's not the way Apache projects

Re: [Proposal] Kato - mentors needed etc

2008-10-07 Thread Sonal Goyal
Hi, I am an independent consultant interested in mentoring this project. A few things are not clear to me: 1. The Apache site http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html states that a working codebase is essential for incubation. How do we start if we are at the specification level ? 2. I

Re: Graduation Checklist , was Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Doug Cutting
Luciano Resende wrote: Have you guys looked at the "Creating an Open and Diverse community" section on the graduation checklist ? Pig wishes to become a subproject of Hadoop, not a TLP. Hadoop's PMC is listed at: http://hadoop.apache.org/who.html Doug ---

Re: [Proposal] Kato - mentors needed etc

2008-10-07 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Sonal, On Oct 7, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Sonal Goyal wrote: Hi, I am an independent consultant interested in mentoring this project. Great to hear of your interest in this proposed project. A few things are not clear to me: 1. The Apache site http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.ht

Re: [Proposal] Kato - mentors needed etc

2008-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Sonal Goyal wrote: > > I am an independent consultant interested in mentoring this project. A > few things are not clear to me: > > 1. The Apache site http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html > states that a working codebase is essential for incubation. How do we > start if we are at th

Re: [Proposal] Kato - mentors needed etc

2008-10-07 Thread Steve Poole
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Sonal Goyal wrote: I am an independent consultant interested in mentoring this project. A few things are not clear to me: 1. The Apache site http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html states that a working codebase is essential for incubation. How do we st

Re: [Proposal] Kato - mentors needed etc

2008-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Steve Poole wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> Sonal Goyal wrote: >>> >>> 2. Is it necessary for a mentor to be an Apache member or part of the >>> Incubator PMC? How do I join otherwise ? >> >> There might be a disconnect here in the word Mentor. Mentorship here is >> strictly talking about

Re: Allow incubator releases? [was: way too wordy]

2008-10-07 Thread Marnie McCormack
Hi All, FWIW in my experience, the release process is a key driver for a podling community to get it's collective act together. On Qpid, we've done 3 major releases now. Until we worked towards the first, one couldn't guarantee that the code would compile from trunk every day. Our project really

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-10-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
The central repository is not an Apache project's resource. We've always discussed issues of the central repository in private (except for technical details of syncing other project repositories) and as far as policy goes it's the Maven PMC that will sets it. Members can see the list and w

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-07 Thread Hiram Chirino
The current plugin stores the checksum in a checksum.txt file that sits alongside of the pom.xml in the source code. Doing it in separate file makes adding new checksums a little easier, plus I'm not sure it would be valid to extend the pom XML schema in the way you described. Another reason that

RE: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Niklas Gustavsson wrote: > Is the idea to do this in the POM or similar? Having something like: Can we please move this discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

RE: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-10-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jason van Zyl wrote: > Noel, your comments are completely out of whack with reality. You are > asking Maven to enforce something that no one does. Pretty much > almost no one. > Checking PGP signatures is obviously not something the vast majority of people do. Really? Try following the instruct

Re: [VOTE] Pig graduation to hadoop subproject

2008-10-07 Thread Nigel Daley
+1 On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Olga Natkovich wrote: Pig Developers and Mentors, Pig has been incubating for over a year now. In this period of time, we had extended our community with 2 new committers, had a release, resolved 300 issues. We have made some significant code improvements incl