Re: The incubator and Poland

2003-09-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: So we're yack yacking about the incubator (again). The incubator AFAICT replicated a tricameral vote. To release you must have: ... The point? None, I just like pointing my finger childishly when someone does something silly (like create a tricameral voting system... pret

Question time !

2003-09-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
Why are we discussing/considering the possibility of anything other than a TLP incubation? If a project is comming in as part of another project than an existing PMC is bringing it it in and doing so in accordance with the policies, procedures and due-diligence that have been granted under the

Re: Question time !

2003-09-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stephen McConnell wrote: Why are we discussing/considering the possibility of anything other than a TLP incubation? If a project is comming in as part of another project than an existing PMC is bringing it it in and doing so in accordance with the policies, procedures and due-diligence that ha

Re: Question time !

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Stephen McConnell wrote: > Why are we discussing/considering the possibility of anything other than > a TLP incubation? If a project is comming in as part of another project > than an existing PMC is bringing it it in and doing so in accordance > with the policies, procedures and due-diligence

Request for Guidance

2003-09-29 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Incubator PMC People, Would be great to get some guideance and direction on the recent activities that have been occuring. I have a (not trying to be smart) terrible fear that I might be wasting my time, and I *hate* doing that. I'd prefer to be officially told now to re-focus or stop before

Re: incubator, exit and publication

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > If you mean you saved over it, you can easily get the last version back. no, i mean iw was working solely in preview, and hadn't saved it at all. :-( i was waiting until it was further along. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ A

Re: The incubator and Poland

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > So we're yack yacking about the incubator (again). if it bothers you so much, you don't have to participate. :-) > The incubator AFAICT > replicated a tricameral vote. To release you must have: what do you mean by 'release'? release software, or be released from the

Re: unicameral solution

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Stephen McConnell wrote: > > To rephrase Andrew's tricameral process, recasting with veto in mind ... > > 1. A Sponsoring Entity votes to accept a candidate not necessary. > 2. The Sponsoring Entity votes to exit the candidate. not applicable. > 3. Incubator PMC hold the right to veto. not t

Re: Question time !

2003-09-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Why are we discussing/considering the possibility of anything other than a TLP incubation? If a project is comming in as part of another project than an existing PMC is bringing it it in and doing so in accordance with the policies, procedu

Re: Question time !

2003-09-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stephen McConnell wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Why are we discussing/considering the possibility of anything other than a TLP incubation? ... Read this [1] and you will have all the answers. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/resolution.html Nicola: I'll draw your

Re: Request for Guidance

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Berin Lautenbach wrote: > > I'd prefer to be officially told now to re-focus or stop before we go > any further. my first reaction is: please be patient. people don't function on internet time, and most of us (including you) have other demands on our time. so poke and prod all you like to ke

Re: Question time !

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Stephen McConnell wrote: > > The phrase "independent PMC status" is pertinent. Reading on in the > charter you will find wording that expands the above core, however the > expansion is hard to rationalize beyond incorporation of "full projects" > within umbrella PMCs. I think it is totally rea

Status of Directory incubation proposal?

2003-09-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
In not entirely related context, an RoUS observed that: > people don't function on internet time, and most of us > have other demands on our time. so poke and prod all > you like to keep things moving, but don't anticipate > instant responses -- or even cogent ones within > 24 hours. :-) Speaki

Re: Status of Directory incubation proposal?

2003-09-29 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Speaking of which ... what is the status of looking at incubation for the > Directory project? My personal guess is that it got lost in the talk about > incubating the incubator. :-) > What needs be done to move that forward? :-) personally, i think it should be con

Re: Request for Guidance

2003-09-29 Thread Ted Leung
On 9/29/2003 6:34 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: so far, i at least am appreciating your input and don't want you to stop. I think that a few more 1 liners like this would help to allay Berin's concerns, and my own. More people are trying to come and help. Please let us know if we are go

do not cross-post to the PMC

2003-09-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
The PMC is on the incubator general list. DO NOT cross-post items from public mailing lists onto the pmc lists. The only reason to post information to the pmc lists is if it is sensitive information that is not appropriate for a public forum. All discussion and setting of goals/procedure/documen

Re: Request for Guidance

2003-09-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
The wiki pages would already be committed to cvs if I were not already waiting for you to have access to do it yourself. I'll just assume you won't mind having karma on incubator and add you to avail...Done. Berin Lautenbach and Noel Bergman now have karma for incubator and incubator-site, which m

Re: Re: Status of Directory incubation proposal?

2003-09-29 Thread aok123
> > Speaking of which ... what is the status of looking at incubation for the > > Directory project? My personal guess is that it got lost in the talk about > > incubating the incubator. > > :-) > > > What needs be done to move that forward? :-) > > personally, i think it should be considered

Re: Request for Guidance

2003-09-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Roy T. Fielding wrote: The wiki pages would already be committed to cvs if I were not already waiting for you to have access to do it yourself. I'll just assume you won't mind having karma on incubator and add you to avail...Done. Berin Lautenbach and Noel Bergman now have karma for incubator and