Hello guys,
>> We used that for getting an Apache-licensed J2EE server (Geronimo), but we
>> did *not* for OOo. We left that decision to the IPMC. I believe the concept
>> is obsolete and can be removed from the docs. I do not forsee the Board
>> taking such an action in the future.
>
> If my memo
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Board sponsorship equates to mandate: the Incubator PMC has no choice in the
> matter.
>
> We used that for getting an Apache-licensed J2EE server (Geronimo), but we
> did *not* for OOo. We left that decision to the IPMC. I believe the concept
Board sponsorship equates to mandate: the Incubator PMC has no choice in the
matter.
We used that for getting an Apache-licensed J2EE server (Geronimo), but we
did *not* for OOo. We left that decision to the IPMC. I believe the concept
is obsolete and can be removed from the docs. I do not forsee
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>> On 9/21/2011 10:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to add this image in addition:
>>> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
>>>
>>> Because an
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> On 9/21/2011 10:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>
>> I would like to add this image in addition:
>> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
>>
>> Because an image does say more than thousand words...
>
> Awesomeness. Please c
On 9/21/2011 10:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
I would like to add this image in addition:
http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
Because an image does say more than thousand words...
Awesomeness. Please check it into the docs. And if we are ever working
in the same place s
other PPMC members to review and amend).
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 06:34
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:14
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, sebb wrote:
>>> Do PPMCs have chairs?
>>> If not, then maybe the Champion fulfils that role until eventual
>>> graduation; otherwise they fulfil the role until the PPMC elects a
>>> chair.
>>
>> I really thought PPMCs have chairs! Otherwise how does the Incubator
On 22 September 2011 14:03, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
>
> On 9/20/2011 8:18 PM, sebb wrote:
>>
>> On 20 September 2011 18:50, Robert Burrell Donkin
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
On 9/20/2011 8:18 PM, sebb wrote:
On 20 September 2011 18:50, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
wrote:
...snip...
If
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:28 AM, David Crossley wrote:
> Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> >
>> > Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
>> > Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.
>>
>> So whats the name for Podling before it becomes one? Simply project?
>
> As su
Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >
> > Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
> > Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.
>
> So whats the name for Podling before it becomes one? Simply project?
As suggested above "Proposal". Or this
http://incubator.apache.org/in
>> I would like to add this image in addition:
>> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
>>
>> Because an image does say more than thousand words...
>
> Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
> Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.
So whats the n
On 21 September 2011 15:12, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:21 PM, sebb wrote:
>> On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
> speaking to the general list on their own.
The caus
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
>>> I would like to add this image in addition:
>>> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
>>
>> I like it - I'd just say "mentors", plural, in the reddish box on the right.
>
> Agreed, I have changed it local and wait if th
>> I would like to add this image in addition:
>> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
>
> I like it - I'd just say "mentors", plural, in the reddish box on the right.
Agreed, I have changed it local and wait if there are more comments
>
> -Bertrand
>
> ---
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
>...If nobody wants to get rid of this term (except me), we
> should do an update of the Champion description.
>
> I would like to add this image in addition:
> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
I like it - I'd just sa
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:21 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
speaking to the general list on their own.
>>>
>>> The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
>>>
On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>> What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
>>> speaking to the general list on their own.
>>
>> The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
>> mentors and other interested parties.
>
> "The Champ
>> What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
>> speaking to the general list on their own.
>
> The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
> mentors and other interested parties.
"The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a Spons
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
>> champion |ˈCHampēən| noun
>> 1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
>> esp. in sports:
>> 2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else:
>>
>> The correct usage is of course de
> champion |ˈCHampēən| noun
> 1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
> esp. in sports:
> 2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else:
>
> The correct usage is of course definition #2
What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New fo
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> Why must the name be "Champion" and not just "Mentor"?
Because Champion is an aptly name for the role.
> champion is just another term for the first potential mentor who steps up.
It is the correct name for that role:
champion |ˈCH
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>...it seems useful that one person would step forth and
>> claim to be the champion of bringing a certain project to the ASF and
>> [implicitly] agree to pushing down any artificia
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
>...it seems useful that one person would step forth and
> claim to be the champion of bringing a certain project to the ASF and
> [implicitly] agree to pushing down any artificial process hurdles...
I agree with that, and someone signing up as
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
>> wrote:
>>> IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance
>>> of the podling into the incuba
On 20 September 2011 18:50, Robert Burrell Donkin
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
>>> wrote:
IMO the champion helps clarify the inc
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
>> wrote:
>>> IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance
>>> of the podling into the incubat
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
> wrote:
>> IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance
>> of the podling into the incubator. For example the champion for Wicket
>> was not a singular person,
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Martijn Dashorst
wrote:
> IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance
> of the podling into the incubator. For example the champion for Wicket
> was not a singular person, but both Alex Karasulu and Upayavira were
> both very instrumental
IMO the champion helps clarify the incubator process up to acceptance
of the podling into the incubator. For example the champion for Wicket
was not a singular person, but both Alex Karasulu and Upayavira were
both very instrumental in smoothing our transition into the incubator.
general@ can be v
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> The default sponsor is the incubator PMC. if you just put that in a
> proposal and offer it up, it just happens.
>
> Board sponsorship happens for 'special' circumstances (like OO), and I
> don't pretend to understand why it's important.
>> And thought, if an upcoming podling is deciding to become a TLD it
>> should ask the board to sponsor it.
>> Now I have been told from Andrus that this is not the case and usually
>> the Incubator is sponsoring TLD projects.
>
> Yes, as I said on the board list I don't remember the board sponsor
The default sponsor is the incubator PMC. if you just put that in a
proposal and offer it up, it just happens.
Board sponsorship happens for 'special' circumstances (like OO), and I
don't pretend to understand why it's important.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Hi,
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> I was looking into that:
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor
>
> And thought, if an upcoming podling is deciding to become a TLD it
> should ask the board to sponsor it.
> Now I have bee
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