>> What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are >> speaking to the general list on their own. > > The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding > mentors and other interested parties.
"The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a Sponsor." http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion This is how the Champion role is defined. The "default" Sponsor is the Apache Incubator - no big deal. The only thing a Champion does is to look at the projects list and try to contact a project if it would sponsor this new podling. Imho this should be discussed on the general@ list, when a Draft proposal is there. >> #1 applies. the projects I have seen needed counseling, not somebody >> who fight for their case. >> If you can find a first mentor, you can prove that somebody has an interest. > > A mentor guides the podling through the incubation. A champion guides > the podling into the incubator. Big difference and not confusing at > all. Confusion is in the eye of the beholder too. I am not sure what is wrong with "make a draft proposal and ask for help on general@" and why there must be a role for that. But it seems I am the only one who does not see any sense in it, so I shut up now. If folks here want to keep the Champion for whatever reasons, I suggest to update the description a little bit and be more concrete on what is expected from a Champion and how one can find a Champion. Cheers Christian > Martijn > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- http://www.grobmeier.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
