On 21 September 2011 15:12, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:21 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
>>>>> speaking to the general list on their own.
>>>>
>>>> The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
>>>> mentors and other interested parties.
>>>
>>> "The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a 
>>> Sponsor."
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion
>>>
>>> This is how the Champion role is defined. The "default" Sponsor is the
>>> Apache Incubator - no big deal. The only thing a Champion does is to
>>> look at the projects list and try to contact a project if it would
>>> sponsor this new podling.
>>
>> Also, the Champion makes sure the discussion phase is wrapped up and
>> turned into a vote; ensures the vote is tallied etc.
>
> This might be true, but it is implicit knowledge, which is leading to
> confusion. If nobody wants to get rid of this term (except me), we
> should do an update of the Champion description.
>
> I would like to add this image in addition:
> http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf
>
> Because an image does say more than thousand words...

Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.

Also, the Champion may not need to be recruited; some potential
podlings are introduced by the Champion.


> cheers,
> Christian
>
>>
>> These can of course be done by others, but having one person
>> responsible is generally easier, and less likely to result in omission
>> or duplication.
>>
>> By the way, the Champion does not seem to be listed on the podling
>> status pages or summary.
>>
>> I'm not sure if that is an omission, or whether it's because the
>> Champion's role is over once the podling has been created (if that is
>> so).
>>
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