Re: Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

On 7/2/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > pages tend to be collected within directories so probably > > www.apache.org/dev/standards.html would be a better location but > sounds

Re: Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: > > pages tend to be collected within directories so probably > www.apache.org/dev/standards.html would be a better location but sounds > good. /dev/standards/index.html, and then individual ietf.html, jsr.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

Erik Abele wrote: On 30.06.2006, at 15:22, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards e

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On 30.06.2006, at 15:22, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts. perhaps o

Re: Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

robert burrell donkin wrote: pages tend to be collected within directories so probably www.apache.org/dev/standards.html would be a better location but sounds good. /dev/standards/index.html, and then individual ietf.html, jsr.html, w3c.html? That works. knowing which projects are (reference

Standards Documentation [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project]

On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF >> people >> (committers and members) participating in standards ef

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts. perhaps one way to reduce the friction would be for somene to ad

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On 6/30/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that bothers me is that there is a very small handful of ASF people (committers and members) participating in standards efforts. Once you have created the implementation of something novel, there are people in both the IETF

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Recordon, David wrote: it sounds like the IETF would not be interested in standardizing a protocol above the HTTP layer. Rather, they are looking at a 2-3 year process to modify something like TLS to support authentication. Then once that is

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

day and is useful in solving many people's problems. --David From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/29/2006 4:20 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Record

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On Jun 29, 2006, at 6:50 AM, Recordon, David wrote: For the last IETF meeting, Dick Hardt of Sxip had created a mailing list called DIX (http://dixs.org ) and had a BOF under the same name. It was focused on the Sxip 2.0 protocol as a way to move authentication and profil

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project David Recordon wrote: > This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software > Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric > identity space. > The project would start with

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

David Recordon wrote: > This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software > Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric > identity space. > The project would start with [Yadis, OpenID, OSIS] > Yadis is currently being standardized within OASIS as part of t

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

of this. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HeraldryIdentityProposal Regards, --David -Original Message- From: Ruchith Fernando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 6/27/2006 9:15 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Hi David, Thanks for the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

ration with Microsoft CardSpace working. We'll be working with them in July to add support in Higgins for the OpenID Protocol as well. --David From: Ruchith Fernando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 6:13 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

>From feedback at ApacheCon today, I've updated the proposal on the wiki. >http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HeraldryIdentityProposal Mainly streamlined it to better describe the "deliverables" for the project and then give some background on the Higgins project which would be the proposed tie

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

t in Higgins for the OpenID Protocol as well. --David From: Ruchith Fernando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 6:13 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Hi, > Proposal > -- &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On 6/20/06, Drummond Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My co-chair Gabe Wachob and I have been one of a set of OASIS TC chairs that have been arguing hard for OASIS to adopt a more explicit "open source compatible" IPR mode, and we would be happy to work with you and ASF to continue to champion it.

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

At the Berkman Identity Mashup Conference (http://www.identitymash-up.org/) last week, there was a joint announcement by Microsoft, Novell, IBM, SXIP, XRI, and VeriSign around the future of OSIS (http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3229). OSIS will morph into a working group under Identity Commons with

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

Cc: 'Peter Davis'; 'Graves, Michael' > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project > > Hello folks- > I read this thread with a *ton* of sympathy. I think > Drummond characterizes the situation correctly. I have > (several times) raised exactly thes

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

effort. =Drummond (http://xri.net/=drummond.reed) -Original Message- From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:26 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Drummond Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Drummond, Her

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On 6/20/2006 12:55 PM, "Drummond Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dims, > > I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm > cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been helping to try to overcome those > for several years (with some recent progress). I'll point out

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

M > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: Wachob, Gabe; 'Peter Davis'; 'Graves, Michael' > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project > > Dims, > > I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on > this message I'm

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

Hi, Proposal -- This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric identity space. The project would start with Yadis [1] for URL/XRI-based service discovery, OpenID [2] for web based single-sign-

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

Cool! A proposal that incorporates by reference is always quite hard to read. Here's some links I personally found relevant... On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 04:04:16AM -0700, Recordon, David wrote: > The project would start with Yadis [1] for URL/XRI-based service > discovery, OpenID [2] for web based s

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

nd -Original Message- From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project This space in OASIS is a festering pile of claimed patents. Are all of the companies involved wil

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Drummond Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project On Jun 20, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Recordon, David wrote: > This has obviously been something we've been looking at in order to do > our own due diligence on XRI IPR before being

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On Jun 20, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Recordon, David wrote: This has obviously been something we've been looking at in order to do our own due diligence on XRI IPR before being willing to contribute the Yadis spec to be incorporated into XRI Resolution 2.0. That's great, but I wasn't just concerned

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

Ah Nice! thanks for the good news! -- dims On 6/20/06, Peter Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/20/2006 12:55 PM, "Drummond Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dims, > > I am very familiar with the SAML and OpenSAML problems; on this message I'm > cc'ing Peter Davis of NeuStar who has been h

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

ginal Message- From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:26 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Drummond Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project Drummond, Here's some background history of things that we have

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

al, who can further attest to the depth of our commitment that the XRI standards would be 100% free and open and compatible with all open source implementations. Best, =Drummond -Original Message- From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:19 PM To: general@

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

ginal Message- From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:19 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project This space in OASIS is a festering pile of claimed patents. Are all of the companies involved willing to sig

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

This space in OASIS is a festering pile of claimed patents. Are all of the companies involved willing to sign the CCLA and software grants necessary to assure distribution under the Apache License? Roy - To unsubscribe, e-ma

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

onday, June 19, 2006 1:36 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project On 6/19/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apache Sponsor > -- > We respectfully request that The Board of the Apache Software > Foundati

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

On 6/19/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apache Sponsor -- We respectfully request that The Board of the Apache Software Foundation sponsor this project. Your proposal looks fine to me. One minor comment though: the Incubator PMC should be the Sponsor, not the Boa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

With the additional request that when discussion is over and it comes for a vote, a copy of what is being voted in be submitted in the email calling for the vote. gier Paul Querna wrote: > General Comments: > Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki ( > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/

RE: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

next week. Thanks, --David -Original Message- From: Paul Querna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:59 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project General Comments: Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki (

Re: [PROPOSAL] Heraldry Identity Project

General Comments: Is it possible to put this proposal onto the wiki ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ ) for a stable url when there are updates/changes? Recordon, David wrote: snip Initial Committers -- David Recordon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Andy Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]