Touché :)
On Friday, July 25, 2014, Tim Williams wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Henry Saputra > wrote:
> > This is conflicting from what the site said about governance of podling.
> > PPMC is a part of podling and responsible to manage the podling on behalf
> > of IPMC.
> >
> > I su
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Henry Saputra wrote:
> This is conflicting from what the site said about governance of podling.
> PPMC is a part of podling and responsible to manage the podling on behalf
> of IPMC.
>
> I suppose you meant that their votes do not bind but saying it was never
> pa
This is conflicting from what the site said about governance of podling.
PPMC is a part of podling and responsible to manage the podling on behalf
of IPMC.
I suppose you meant that their votes do not bind but saying it was never
part of the structure is misleading or we need to update the ASF webs
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> ...the project
> (PPMC) are the people who really matter from the projects perspective, even
> though their votes are not binding
Yeah, a good summary might be that the podling PPMC (+community)
establishes consensus about releasing, and
The PPMC is not, and never has been, a formally recognized part of our
structure. But as I said that's a technicality in this context, the project
(PPMC) are the people who really matter from the projects perspective, even
though their votes are not binding.
The thread seems to be in agreement in
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Justin Mclean
wrote:
> ...Whose votes are binding for releases on the podlings dev list?...
Technically as Ross says, only votes from Incubator PMC members are
binding as far as the ASF is concerned. What matters is getting 3 such
binding votes, so that the
Yes, this is what I had seen and recommended to podlings I have been
involved with.
- Henry
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:44 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> My interpretation (and it's just that) is:
>
> Example: Release Vote
>
> A podling votes to release (VOTE email to dev@project). The PPMC and
>
Sounds right to me.
As a separate matter of etiquette and community building, it is usually
good form for mentors to vote last during the community vote and first in
the IPMC vote.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:44 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> My interpretation (and it's just that) is:
>
> Exampl
My interpretation (and it's just that) is:
Example: Release Vote
A podling votes to release (VOTE email to dev@project). The PPMC and IPMC/PPMC
(i.e. Mentors) member votes are binding at the PPMC level. This means that
those votes are binding and community votes are non-binding.
If the PPMC v
Ross,
The incubator website would be inclined to disagree, and seems to
acknowledge there is formally a PPMC at [1].
Justin,
I think formally, if you review [2] (you may also want to scroll down, and
review later parts of this page on voting), you'll see that the PPMC votes
really don't count fo
There is no formal PPMC. When a podling is created all initial committers
are equal. I guess some podlings might create the concept of a separate
PPMC during incubation. I've never advised that in my own podlings
(probably because I'm a believer in an absolute minimum barrier to entry).
I guess it'
Hi,
> As a mentor I've (nearly) always advised that if there are three IPMC votes
> on the dev list then there is no need to make further noise on the general
> list with unnecessary +1's. I therefore point out in the general@ vote mail
> that 3 binding (IPMC) +1's have been received and theref
As a mentor I've (nearly) always advised that if there are three IPMC votes on
the dev list then there is no need to make further noise on the general list
with unnecessary +1's. I therefore point out in the general@ vote mail that 3
binding (IPMC) +1's have been received and therefore there is
Hi,
Anyone clarify this as it's not mentioned at [1].
Whose votes are binding for releases on the podlings dev list? Obviously
mentors and PPMC members, but are IPMC members votes binding? I would assume so
but don't see it stated anywhere. Would Apache members votes be binding?
Assuming IPMC
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