Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> Choices are >> >> 1) Podling -> TLP >> 2) Podling -> Felix Sub project >> 3) Podling -> Felix Sub project -> TLP >> 4) Felix Sub project >> 5) Felix Sub project -> TLP >> >> So, why should we bypas

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/4/09 16:49, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Richard, I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks. One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not being able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Let me clarify why i asked that question, When we started the Wink Podling there was strong recommendation that the incoming folks should work under CXF which already has a JAX-RS implementation. Once we did start the podling we have had guidance from just Dan Kulp from CXF and not from anyone el

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Richard, I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks. One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not being able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling) thanks, dims On 09/04/2009 04:31 PM, Richar

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Pauls
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> >> Richard, >> >> On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: >>> >>> So, no, I am not saying "everything should", but in general, it would be >>> nice if the spec impls started there since we h

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Richard, On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: So, no, I am not saying "everything should", but in general, it would be nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi users and OSGi experts who are very active and recepti

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc1

2009-09-04 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Eric Evans wrote: > > The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache > Cassandra 0.4.0-rc1. We would now like to request the approval of the > Incubator PMC for this release. > > +1 from me. Matthieu > Cassandra is a massively scalable, even

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Richard, On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: So, no, I am not saying "everything should", but in general, it would be nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom also work in the EE space

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/4/09 9:05, Daniel Kulp wrote: As a point of note, not all OSGi spec implementations live in Felix even at Apache today. The Remote Services/Distributed OSGi reference implementation is a sub project of CXF. I think Tuscany has an implementation as well. So far, there hasn't been any d

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Pauls
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Fri September 4 2009 9:27:23 am Graham Charters wrote: >> Having read all the discussions, I still have concerns about the >> suggestion to put all OSGi spec implementation under Felix.  I don't >> see this approach being taken for other speci

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me as well. Just to reiterate one more point, As with any other podling, the destination of this podling is determined *when* we graduate. If there is enough "help/guidance/participation" from folks on d...@felix to the podling, then the podling will naturally gravitate towards becoming a s

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Improved Http Service

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
We need the software grant on file for this, did I miss it? -> richard On 9/4/09 7:25, Felix Meschberger wrote: Hi, The Apache Felix project has received a contribution of an Improved OSGi HttpService implementation * The code is attached to the FELIX-1456 JIRA issue [1] * The IP Clearance

[VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.1-BETA2

2009-09-04 Thread Paul Lindner
Greetings, The shindig community has voted on and approved a proposal to release 1.1-BETA2. The next step is approval by the Incubator PMC to publish this release. The summary is attached below. Note that we did have to respin the release twice due to issues with checksums. Artifacts are here:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Fri September 4 2009 9:27:23 am Graham Charters wrote: > Having read all the discussions, I still have concerns about the > suggestion to put all OSGi spec implementation under Felix. I don't > see this approach being taken for other specification organizations > (JCP, OASIS, etc.) and I think

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
For things that come from ServiceMix, I think the story is really different. ServiceMix TLP charter is the following: "an extensible messaging bus for service integration, mediation and composition and its related components". So clearly, Karaf, as an enhanced OSGi runtime distribution, does n

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Charters
Having read all the discussions, I still have concerns about the suggestion to put all OSGi spec implementation under Felix. I don't see this approach being taken for other specification organizations (JCP, OASIS, etc.) and I think that is to the benefit of Apache. For example, whilst a goal of G

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Daniel Kulp
As a point of note, not all OSGi spec implementations live in Felix even at Apache today. The Remote Services/Distributed OSGi reference implementation is a sub project of CXF. I think Tuscany has an implementation as well. So far, there hasn't been any discussion about moving those into

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Pauls
Let me point out one more time: Nobody is talking about Aries as a Felix "incubator" project. We are only talking about the OSGi EE spec implementations that are part of the proposed Aries scope. I'd be more then happy to see the rest of the proposal (namely, to explore how to build an enterprise

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Stuart McCulloch
2009/9/4 Guillaume Nodet > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 07:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Miller > > wrote: > > > > > So, let's assume that one or more OSGi spec implementations are a core > > part > > > of Aries -- with specific features/customization for Aries.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
There are a few things I don't understand well. I thought the ASF over the past years was trying to discourage umbrella projects. I also thought that overlap between the projects was indeed accepted (we already have multiple JAX-WS or JAX-RS implementations in various TLPs / podlings). That was

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread davidb
Being a fan and a regular contributor of Felix I still don't see why Felix should have the monopoly on OSGi spec implementations. If there is a group of people who would like to build a community *specifically* around enterprise OSGi components, then why not let them do that? If some of these thin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 07:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Miller > wrote: > > > So, let's assume that one or more OSGi spec implementations are a core > part > > of Aries -- with specific features/customization for Aries. Personally, > it > > seems reasonable tha

[IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Improved Http Service

2009-09-04 Thread Felix Meschberger
Hi, The Apache Felix project has received a contribution of an Improved OSGi HttpService implementation * The code is attached to the FELIX-1456 JIRA issue [1] * The IP Clearance form has been committed to the Incubator website. [2] * A vote has passed on the d...@felix mailing list [3] The c

[Cancelled] ([VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2)

2009-09-04 Thread Todd Volkert
This vote is being cancelled due to an issue found with the CCL license in the LICENSE file.

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-04 Thread Todd Volkert
Makes sense. I'll call off the vote and re-tag. I'll send another heads up when the podling voting starts on the RC3 candidate. Thanks everyone, especially Sebb, for your attention, -T

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-04 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Leo Simons wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: >>> >  > The LICENSE file does not contain the full CCA LICENSE for the Silk >>> >  > icons; see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode for >>> >  > the full text. >>> > >>> > Good

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: >> >  > The LICENSE file does not contain the full CCA LICENSE for the Silk >> >  > icons; see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode for >> >  > the full text. >> > >> > Good to know - I'll update it on the trunk.  Given that we got

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > >>... What would be the >> benefit for the Aries community of developing these spec implementations at >> Felix? > > Ideally, you have more people taking care of any issues. More > importan