On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org> wrote: > On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>> Choices are >> >> 1) Podling -> TLP >> 2) Podling -> Felix Sub project >> 3) Podling -> Felix Sub project -> TLP >> 4) Felix Sub project >> 5) Felix Sub project -> TLP >> >> So, why should we bypass incubator? No, AFAIK, that is not an option when a large bulk of the incoming community is new to ASF. > Again, there was already a project incubated to educate incoming folks on > how to create open source OSGi spec impls at Apache, so why do we need to > repeat that process? > > Your phrasing of this question implies we are trying to somehow skirt the > Apache way, but educating incoming people via contributions and meritocracy > to an existing project is not some shortcut. Yes, if you are accepting a large number of people into a TLP on the basis "they will create..." or "they donated...", then that PMC is "skirting the Apache way". My stance has been that if a code donation include 1 or 2 new people, then that can be handled that way, but 9 people on that basis will/should probably not fly. Considering the large number of ASF members and committers on the rooster, this is perhaps a border case, but since it is said that "not much code exist", then I also suspect that the rooster is 'rigged' with people in the organization that has a general interest and strong ASF affilliation and that the non-ASFers are those who are expected to do most of the work. Hence, the group's decision to come to Incubator is a correct one. Where it graduates to is a different story, and I can leave that question for later. And the Felix community is encouraged to follow and participate the Aries effort. I think this discussion is more or less over. Unless it was missed earlier; My +1 for incubation. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org