Jukka,
I don't like to force "majority result" if there is controversy.
Having a couple of -1, and other not voting but practically agreeing with
you and Ant, is not the way to go.
I think they are as ready as they can get, considering the starting point
and the general attitude towards incubated
I will try to answer it;
1. I think it is an extreme question. If both disappeared tomorrow, I don't
think the will to continue exists. If it happens 12 months from now in the
Incubator, I think it could go either way. If happens 12 months after
graduation, I am pretty sure it sustains. Why do I t
On Aug 5, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Martijn
Dashorst wrote:
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
True, but that's how I interpret it, for reasons stated earlier in
this thread.
My -1 in the Pi
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
OK we have a similar example here at the ASF - when Craig McC. left
Apache Shale it slowly died - and AFAIK become the first project to
join the Attic. So Ceki decides to become a Yak farmer in patagonia
and maybe the same thing happens to S
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
>> Delacretaz wrote:
>>>
>>> In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
>>> listen to the community?
>>
>> That's
On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
Martijn
Absolutely right. I'd actually like to see more than 3 people with
commit privs (and I think most projects have that). As a mentor I
would be look
Dear Incubator,
Taking up Bill Rowe's challenge, it would be great if JSPWiki got some
feedback on graduation from the old hands here.
From my (mentor) perspective, the project is almost there, still
needing to release code under the Apache release process. Summertime
is delaying things b
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Martijn
Dashorst wrote:
> AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
> code commits.
True, but that's how I interpret it, for reasons stated earlier in this thread.
My -1 in the Pivot vote is just a statement of concern based on my
int
AFAIK Nowhere in the policy it is stated that committer activity ==
code commits.
Martijn
On Wednesday, August 5, 2009, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>> We are looking for projects with at le
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goers
>>> That's why I measure the "three independent committers" criteria by
>>
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> We are looking for projects with at least three independent
>> committers, and personally I'm not including inactive committers in
>> that count.
>
> Now you are making hard and fast rules
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Ralph
Goers wrote:
You won't find the second part solely from the commit log. I would
expect
mentors to be monitoring the dev list. If it is filled with "can
you fix
this?" then there is a problem. But i
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Thorsten
Scherler wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 11:23 +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> ...
>> > Bottom line: activity is hardly measurable since you can be active in
>> > the community or in code or both. Being active on the ml is even more
>> > important then commi
*grin*
I completely missed this email the first time around. I think JSPWiki
would certainly benefit from the attention - we're fairly close to
having all the bits and pieces in place (minus a release or two).
It's just that we're slightly unsure as to what to do... When I
collected the
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> You won't find the second part solely from the commit log. I would expect
> mentors to be monitoring the dev list. If it is filled with "can you fix
> this?" then there is a problem. But if it also has "why did you do this?",
> "can we do th
On Aug 5, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goers> wrote:
Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a
community
perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them lik
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:00 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph
Goers wrote:
Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a
community
perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them like Apache
projects. But even if he did, by these
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Greg Brown wrote:
>> It may be worth noting that Pivot is not technically a "VMware project".
>> Todd and I work on Pivot on our own time. We just happen to work for the
>> same company. :-)
>
> That ce
For the record, I'm -1, i'd like to see a bit more diversity of the
active committers to show this is operating as an Apache project
should.
...ant
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Gang,
>
> Apache Pivot is one of the fastest moving codebases at Apache, and the
> Pivot t
eryzhikov didn't come with the team afaik, but his commits are from
historical imports.
Martijn
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
>> Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> How many committers are in the project? As unde
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a community
>> perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them like Apache
>> projects. But even if he did, by these standards the projects
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> Using these projects as an example is perhaps not the best from a community
> perspective because Ceki has no intention of running them like Apache
> projects. But even if he did, by these standards the projects might never
> make it out of
2009/8/5 Ralph Goers :
>
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
>> Delacretaz wrote:
>>>
>>> In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
>>> listen to the community?
>>
>> That's certainly good, but [snip]
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