Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The draft seems to be using RFC 2119 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt)
terminology. If so, let's please reference the RFC early in the document so
that readers can find the operation definitions (thus establishing common
volcabulary).
Whoops. There is a line in there :
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> [lots of really good stuff]
The draft seems to be using RFC 2119 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt)
terminology. If so, let's please reference the RFC early in the document so
that readers can find the operation definitions (thus establishing common
volcabulary).
Dav
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > To a certain extent, the incubator is evolving, too. If evolving
procedures
> > that are not being disseminated, that's one problem.
>
> > I propose that a good way to address this situation will be to make
active
> > use of the new JIRA insta
Julie,
> I'm still trying to figure out how everything works around
> here. Any and all constructive feedback is welcome.
And we are trying to improve the incubation process, so please feel free to
make constructive suggestions as to what is/isn't working, and how you feel
things can be improved
Mentor is preferable to me, too. :-) It is understood in technology
circles, and has a different connotation than Shephard. The project has to
mature, and develop as a Community, rather than a flock of coding sheep.
People might perceive a Shephard as someone who will "do it" for them, which
is
David Jencks wrote:
As podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
Foundation, any software releases (including code held in publically
available CVS) made by Podlings will not be endorsed by the ASF.
Podlings in Incubation SHALL NOT perform any releases of software
Sam Ruby wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
...
It seems to me a disclaimer on the website, perhaps also in the root
directory of the associated CVS trees, and a process which prevents
any official "release" to be created by projects in incubation should
be more than sufficient.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> People often lost the precious e-mails due to the current
> Here "SPAM"
> There "SPAM"
> Everywhere "SPAM", "SPAM"
oh, you mean like all the 'apache newsletter' messages i've received
on just about every single asf list i'm on?
> In the business world, "inbubation"/
David Jencks wrote:
On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 03:20 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
== Releases ==
As podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
Foundation, any software releases (including code held in publically
available CVS) made by Podlings will not be endorse
On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 03:20 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
== Releases ==
As podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
Foundation, any software releases (including code held in publically
available CVS) made by Podlings will not be endorsed by the ASF.
Po
Stephen McConnell wrote:
BZZZT, BZZZT, the above statement presumes that "release" and
"publication" are one and the same. The distinction between a vote to
"release" and a vote to "publish" is in my option an import aspect of
active community based decision making. Communities vote to release,
Leo Simons wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
I would go further. Essentially, a release by a podling would require
a vote by the incubator PMC to do so.
a release by *any* project requires its supervising PMC to vote
it through. Since for podlings, the supervising PMC is by definition
the incubator PMC
Sam Ruby wrote:
I would go further. Essentially, a release by a podling would require
a vote by the incubator PMC to do so.
a release by *any* project requires its supervising PMC to vote
it through. Since for podlings, the supervising PMC is by definition
the incubator PMC, you're not going any
Leo Simons wrote:
Branding
The podling website should have a notice () on its
front page pointing out that its under incubation, a notice in the
root of its cvs (in README.txt or WARNING.txt or ...), a notice
inside and alongside any downloadables it produces in a prominent
location, and i
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit
more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address
(cc'ing general to inform the pmc. if this is not the right procedure then
hopefully someone will post a correction.)
some of the source code (still under weblogic packages) contains some
strange @author tags. example:
@author Copyright (c) 1997 by WebLogic, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
i think t
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the . Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until
a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications,
and decision making process have stabilized
Status of this project??
I posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for soliciting articles for the
upcoming Apache Newsletter Issue #2) and found that the mail has
been rejected.
Status?
-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
(Subject: jUDDI - incubation status?)
Davanum
Hi gang,
long e-mail, with analysis of pros and cons, and some policy
draft on some issues Berin didn't address yet last time I checked.
Disclaimers
---
a question at hand: how do we make clear to everyone that a
project and all its related assets are "under incubation" (along
with what th
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:49:01 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry, but this has not worked.
I guess you had a karma for jakarta-site2 and you had left
1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
at http://jakarta.apache.org/sit
All,
FWIW - the following is the extract (at time of writing) from the draft
Policy document relating to the current discussion.
I am about to move this into the drafts section of the site, so people
can start hacking within CVS.
Cheers,
Berin
= Podling Constraints =
== Branding ==
P
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
From my point of view, "disclaimer" page would be enough and
the best "alternative".
+1
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:49:01 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, but this has not worked.
I guess you had a karma for jakarta-site2 and you had left
1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
as the
Sam Ruby wrote:
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit
more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address changed from [EMAIL PROTEC
Sam Ruby wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
...
If there isn't - does anyone mind if I set up a cron job to update the
site from CVS every six hours?
I just added this to the list of sites that I automatically update
(every six hours).
Thanks :-)
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROT
Sam Ruby wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
...
Good point. My post was more aimed at the people who are shepherding the
project (e.g. Sam) rather than the developers. IMO, Sam should know
better, and should have fixed this long ago.
Let me turn this around. You note a problem with a prior project. You
p
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PRO
Greg Stein wrote:
But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a
couple weeks ago, but it wasn't fixed.
Aha, Okay. I think that the folks in wsrp4j just did not know how
to do. It happens all the time. People should not blame ones' ignorance.
Agreed. And I raised the point tw
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Peoples,
Is there a cron job anywhere that auto-updates the incubator site out
of CVS?
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
doesn't mention one, but at the same time doesn't indicate that you
have to log into the site to do a "cvs up
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Can I ask that you document the process of updating the site?
Looks like it's already there, but not very obvious. I will add to the
side-bar, but in the interim :
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
Thank you! That is more than sufficient for
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Peoples,
Is there a cron job anywhere that auto-updates the incubator site out of
CVS?
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
doesn't mention one, but at the same time doesn't indicate that you have
to log into the site to do a "cvs up".
If there isn't - does a
I would rather like to get the script for forrestbot
which is used and running at forrestbot.cocoondev.org.
I would be able to re-produce sites and trigger the forrestbot batch
from my win2k server, I guess. What I need would be
"getting the forrestbot sample script from Jeff" ... that would be
e
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Nicola and others,
I note in the DraftPolicy document you have done a s/shepherd/mentor/g.
Is this our final call on the title for these people? I.e. should I
make the same change to the Process Description?
As I wrote in the commit doc, I regard Mentor as more a counsel
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
To a certain extent, the incubator is evolving, too. If evolving procedures
that are not being disseminated, that's one problem.
I propose that a good way to address this situation will be to make active
use of the new JIRA install, Serge and I have scheduled for next Thursd
Jim Jagielski wrote:
Nicola is sending/has sent to you the result of
the vote.
I was waiting for 72 hours after the ACK of the board, as is required,
to declare you guys in the PMC, but it has leaked out ;-)
In any case, you guys are in :-)
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:20 PM, Ted Leung wro
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:02:59 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm the moderator there, and I didn't see your mail.
I apologise for missing it, it was not intentional. Sorry.
Okay, then can the config of the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
be changed? When? Who? How
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Peoples,
Is there a cron job anywhere that auto-updates the incubator site out of
CVS?
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
doesn't mention one, but at the same time doesn't indicate that you have
to log into the site to do a "cvs up".
If there isn't - does a
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