Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > To a certain extent, the incubator is evolving, too. If evolving procedures > > that are not being disseminated, that's one problem. > > > I propose that a good way to address this situation will be to make active > > use of the new JIRA install, Serge and I have scheduled for next Thursday.
> IMO it will just obfuscate tasks more. What we need is more simplicity, > not complexity. IMO just keeping STATUS files in the Incubator is simple > enough. I had thought of that, and ended up removing the paragraph discussing the STATUS file because of the differences. I am not trying to complicate the process. I am proposing what I believe is at least as easy a process, and which better facilitates active oversight through a more appropriate tool. The STATUS file is passive. Jira is active. The STATUS file requires the submitter to have CVS commit access to that module, and CVS knowledge. Jira has its own access control, and a built-in UI. The STATUS file requires human parsing to understand the priorities. Jira has a prioritization model. Updating the STATUS file requires a checkout/update, edit, commit. Jira would be simply filing an issue via the webapp. There was a study long ago related to auto-pilots. The initial idea was that the computer would fly the plane, and the human would monitor its actions. Turns out that we are particularly poor at monitoring something that is usually fine; we get bored, and inattentive. It works much better when the computer is monitoring us, rather than the other way around. Hence, the active nature of the issue tracker seems a key. It is like the question of "If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is there to hear, does it make a sound?" ** If an issue is added to STATUS, and action is not immediate, will anyone remember? Will the change even be noticed? The STATUS files are in a common module; to which list are the commit notices posted? Lastly, I don't think that an inbox makes a good issue tracker. With high e-mail volumes, if a message isn't acted upon and deleted, once it scrolls off the screen, there is a tendency for it to be out of sight, out of mind until the person has time to address the backlog. The issue tracker, on the other hand, will continue to remind until the task is marked as completed. These all contribute to why I suggest that issue tracking is better done with an issue tracker. So although I had not mentioned the STATUS file in this context, I had given it thought. I'm interested in your response, and those of others, to this assessment. As for the titular topic, I have no problem with the two modules merging. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]