Peoples,
Is there a cron job anywhere that auto-updates the incubator site out of
CVS?
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
doesn't mention one, but at the same time doesn't indicate that you have
to log into the site to do a "cvs up".
If there isn't - does anyone mind if I set up a
Sam Ruby wrote:
Can I ask that you document the process of updating the site?
Looks like it's already there, but not very obvious. I will add to the
side-bar, but in the interim :
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
I want to make sure that there is a set of requirements for what sta
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
To a certain extent, the incubator is evolving, too. If evolving procedures
that are not being disseminated, that's one problem.
I propose that a good way to address this situation will be to make active
use of the new JIRA install, Serge and I have scheduled for next Thu
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit
more
> > involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
> > address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moving
> People often lost the precious e-mails due to the current [spam]
Yes, spam can be an issue, as can be the sheer volume of e-mail, the fact
that Sam has been sick, and the fact that he didn't know how to implement
the change. These things are being addressed.
Berin is posting vastly improved In
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:46:21 -0700
(Subject: Re: Mentor vs. Shepherd)
"Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The ASF loves the Greek Myth :-) Mentor was Odysseus's good teacher and
> > mental supporter. I prefer Mentor to Shepherd.
> Er, the ASF rarely speaks with one voice -- Stefano lo
The ASF loves the Greek Myth :-) Mentor was Odysseus's good teacher and
mental supporter. I prefer Mentor to Shepherd.
Er, the ASF rarely speaks with one voice -- Stefano loves the Greek
Myth,
and the rest of us just tolerate it because we like Stefano. ;-)
Personally, I prefer Shepherd, since o
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:45:15 -0700
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But if NOTHING is done after two weeks, then it is no longer about
> ignorance, but about failure to let people know about the projects' actual
> status. A completely different matter.
People often lost the precious e-mail
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
get under my skin.
I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
I have asked for this to be updated.
I have asked for information on how I can update this.
Sam,
I a
Hi,
There is a history. Who introduced the concept of "Mentor" is ME,
as a matter of fact. (in june).
I talked with Stefano about this, and he said that "Oh! We should use
Mentor rather than Shepherd ..."
(Also, the term "MENTOR" is occasionally used in the situation of
the incubation in the REA
Nicola and others,
I note in the DraftPolicy document you have done a s/shepherd/mentor/g.
Is this our final call on the title for these people? I.e. should I
make the same change to the Process Description?
Cheers,
Berin
Hi,
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:02:59 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm the moderator there, and I didn't see your mail.
> I apologise for missing it, it was not intentional. Sorry.
Okay, then can the config of the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
be changed? When? Who? How?
---
Sam Ruby wrote:
I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
get under my skin.
I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
I have asked for this to be updated.
I have asked for information on how I can update this.
Sam,
I am 90% of the way through
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit more
> involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
> address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Movin
Greg Stein wrote:
> > If we kept all incubated projects under the incubator it would have been
> > clear enough.
> I'm alright with that, but I think we need infrastructure sign-off first.
> If they respond with, "holy crap. moving cvs repositories and mailing
> lists are the biggest pains in the
To a certain extent, the incubator is evolving, too. If evolving procedures
that are not being disseminated, that's one problem.
I propose that a good way to address this situation will be to make active
use of the new JIRA install, Serge and I have scheduled for next Thursday.
I was just discuss
Sam Ruby wrote:
> I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
> I have asked for this to be updated.
> I have asked for information on how I can update this.
Berin Lautenbach is beginning to update the incubator documents. Apparently
you need to use Forrest. Parenthetically,
Nicola is sending/has sent to you the result of
the vote.
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:20 PM, Ted Leung wrote:
On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
My simple question about who is actually on the PMC has also gone
unanswered, though it has only been three days.
Aaron Bannert
N
Added myself to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Yes, my +1 to Berin (if i may).
Thanks,
dims
--- "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ted Leung wrote:
> > On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> > >[The members of the Incubator PMC are:]
> > > Aaron Bannert
> > > Nicola Ken Ba
Ted Leung wrote:
> On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >[The members of the Incubator PMC are:]
> > Aaron Bannert
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi (Chair select)
> > Noel Bergman (new member)
> > Ken Coar
> > Roy Fielding
> > B. W. Fitzpatrick
> > Paul Hammant
> > Ted Leung (new m
On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
My simple question about who is actually on the PMC has also gone
unanswered, though it has only been three days.
Aaron Bannert
Nicola Ken Barozzi (Chair select)
Noel Bergman (new member)
Ken Coar
Roy Fielding
B. W. Fitzpatrick
Pa
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:59, Sam Ruby wrote:
I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
get under my skin.
I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
I have asked for this to be updated
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:40, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> >
> > Not only do I not mind - I'd be extremely grateful.
> > I'm trying to get as much review and agreement as
> > possible before doing anything too rash.
>
> 'k, thanks.
>
> > I just finished yesterday "For
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:59, Sam Ruby wrote:
> I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
> get under my skin.
>
> I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
>
> I have asked for this to be updated.
>
> I have asked for information on how I can u
Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:38:40PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
It seems that the same goes for the JaxMe, too.
Anyway, please take a glance at
http://ws.apache.org/
... section.
That section has zero bearing on the wsrp4j pages themselves. I hit
tho
Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info, Sam.
> >
> > I asked this mainly because of the wiki entry
> > (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?PlutoProposal)
> > where some people showed there interest in Pluto (or in the
> > proposal) and most of them are
Thanks dims, for taking care of this. Apologies to the Greg, and
community. I was not subscribed to the incubator mailing list so I
didn't see this issue raised 2 weeks ago. I'm still trying to figure
out how everything works around here. Any and all constructive feedback
is welcome.
Or
Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:10:58PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyway, please take a glance at
http://ws.apache.org/
... section.
But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a
co
Confirmed. Really great job! (Otsukare sama desita)
-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
P.S. I think you can change the URL of the link to "Pluto"
(@ left-side navi on wsrp4j project website):
http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:43:28 -0700 (PDT)
(Subject: Re: Disclaimer text for
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:19:50PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote:
> ...
> > To what document do I need to add rule that says "a project ABSOLUTELY
> > MUST make clear that it is under incubation?"
>
> If we kept all incubated projects under the incubator it would have been
>
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:10:58PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
> Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Anyway, please take a glance at
> > > http://ws.apache.org/
> > > ... section.
>
> > But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about w
Updated http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/ and http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j with disclaimer
text. Please
review.
Thanks,
dims
--- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
> Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Anyway, please t
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>
> Not only do I not mind - I'd be extremely grateful.
> I'm trying to get as much review and agreement as
> possible before doing anything too rash.
'k, thanks.
> I just finished yesterday "Forrestising" the first
> part of it
when nicola ken first suggested doing the
Greg Stein wrote:
...
To what document do I need to add rule that says "a project ABSOLUTELY
MUST make clear that it is under incubation?"
If we kept all incubated projects under the incubator it would have been
clear enough.
We've already been through
this process where incubated projects are n
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyway, please take a glance at
> > http://ws.apache.org/
> > ... section.
> But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a
> couple weeks ago, but it wasn't fixed.
Aha, Ok
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:38:40PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> (CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> It seems that the same goes for the JaxMe, too.
>
> Anyway, please take a glance at
> http://ws.apache.org/
> ... section.
That section has zero bearing on the wsrp4j pages themselves. I hit
thos
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
It seems that the same goes for the JaxMe, too.
Anyway, please take a glance at
http://ws.apache.org/
... section.
Regards,
-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:00:36 -0700
(Subject: Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects)
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTE
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:47:50PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > "XMLBeans is an incubated subproject under the sponsorship of the Apache
> > Software Foundation's (ASF) XML project.
>
> it all looks good, except for this. i think i would prefer something
>
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
'XMLBeans is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache Software
Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the ASF's XML Project.'
the original uses the past tense and the semantically semi-null
term 'subproject'.
Sounds reasonable. Since I haven't heard any other opinions, we're
g
On Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> "XMLBeans is an incubated subproject under the sponsorship of the
>> Apache Software Foundation's (ASF) XML project.
>
> it all looks good, except for this. i think i would prefer something
> like
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
From: Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Not necessarily. Put it in the website CVS linking it from the drafts
section and add a part on top so that it's clear that it's a WIP.
Sounds like a good compromise. I will do this.
However - fair warning - I am going to b
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