RE: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-17 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:11 AM > My understanding from discussion with Sam and Ken was that creation of a new > TLP or migrating to an existing one would be an exit, not entry, issue. That's correct. However, it wouldn't make much s

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Sep 17 23:46:59 EDT 2003

2003-09-17 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2003/09/17 13:22:24 $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://Nagoya.Apache.Org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheIncubatorProjectPages [note: the Web site is the 'official' documenta

Re: Getting an XMLBeans distribution onto a download site somewhere

2003-09-17 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Can't you rename "xkit.zip" to something related to "xmlbeans"? As far as mirroring is concerned, I think you can do. You can put your files to /www/www.apache.org/dist/xml/xmlbeans/ , keeping in good order, I guess. (This would be rsync-ed to /www/archive.apache.org/dist/xml/xmlbeans and other

RE: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:58:04PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >... > > What needs be done to adopt this project for inbubation, other than a vote > > to accept it, getting CLAs from the project members, and setting up the > > infrastructure? > Since there is no (current) P

Getting an XMLBeans distribution onto a download site somewhere

2003-09-17 Thread David Remy
Thinking about how to do the binary distribution for XMLBeans. We have a build target that creates xkit.zip which contains the xbeans.jar, some helpful utilities, some sample schemas, and the docs. This is what has been distributed to users in the past. Where should I put xkit.zip so that I c

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Stein
See my previous post. The Incubator itself can accept projects, if it so chooses. The project can then sit in the Incubator as long as the Incubator wants to allow it. But for exit, it will need *some* PMC to accept it, or for the Board to agree to creating a new PMC for it. The proposal calls for

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:58:04PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >... > What needs be done to adopt this project for inbubation, other than a vote > to accept it, getting CLAs from the project members, and setting up the > infrastructure? Since there is no (current) PMC stating they need this proj

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-17 Thread Ted Leung
Is this going to be a top level project or has an existing PMC agreed to accept it? My impression is that the board has to agree to a new top level project, but I'm not positive about this. Ted On 9/17/2003 1:58 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Please see: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.c

RE: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I think that Nicola Ken Coar would do a fine job as PMC Chair. ;-) Ok, name games aside, I honestly don't know if Ken or Nicola Ken have any substantively different views on what should happen with Incubator. If they think so, I would be interested to hear them. Generally, I think that either K

[PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-17 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Please see: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheDirectoryProject There are multiple ASF Members sponsoring the project. The code is already under a ASF license with the name changed. They are prepared to submit a software grant to assign copyright and change the license. All comm

Re: Setup Incubator resources for WS jUDDI Project

2003-09-17 Thread Steve Viens
A single "juddi-dev" list will do for now. Steve > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:59:29AM -0700, Steve Viens wrote: > >... > > Create jUDDI mailing lists and archives: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > What is the size of this project's commu

Re: Setup Incubator resources for WS jUDDI Project

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:59:29AM -0700, Steve Viens wrote: >... > Create jUDDI mailing lists and archives: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the size of this project's community? For starting communities, I disagree with the notion of separa

Setup Incubator resources for WS jUDDI Project

2003-09-17 Thread Steve Viens
The Web Services PMC has voted to accept jUDDI (http://www.juddi.org) into the Apache Incubator. See the jUDDI Proposal for more information: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi? ProposalForJUDDI. All jUDDI committers have been asked to complete and submit the ASF Contributor License A

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Hammant
== == == == == == == == == == == == == == Note: "Who is Nicola Ken Barozzi?" ... http://www.apache.org/~nicolaken/ ... http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html "Who is Ken Coar?" ... http://www.apache.org/~coar/ ... http://ken.coar.org/ "Who is Paul Hammant?" ... http://www.apache.org/~

Re: committer process

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 10:00 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: PMC and ASF members. There were 3 separate camps, but more "There were 3" --> "There weren't 3" --- big difference :) - To unsubsc

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:15:43 -0400 Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I'd like to put my sincere plus one as the New Chair of the Apache Incubator

Re: cvs commit: incubator STATUS

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 09:53 AM, Greg Stein wrote: Okay, agreed. The term "selection" threw me off. I read it as "selecting the chair" rather than "selecting the recommendation [to the Board]". In the future, the phrase "... actual recommendation" could be a bit clearer :-) Gotch

Re: committer process

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: The root of the problem here is that most of the ASF (including myself) was not really aware of a lot of the rationale for why the httpd PMC was constructed and managed in the fashion it is. About this time last year, we had a *lot*

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:15:43 -0400 Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > I'd like to put my sincere plus one as the New Chair of > > the Apache Incubator Project To > > > > [ ] Nicola Ken Barozzi > > [ ] Ken Coar >

Re: cvs commit: incubator STATUS

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Stein
Okay, agreed. The term "selection" threw me off. I read it as "selecting the chair" rather than "selecting the recommendation [to the Board]". In the future, the phrase "... actual recommendation" could be a bit clearer :-) Cheers, -g On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 09:51:51AM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote

Re: cvs commit: incubator STATUS

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
The board makes the final selection, but all resolutions state: WHEREAS, the membership of the Apache (whatever) Project Management Committee (PMC) have appointed... Since the PMC is responsible for the oversight, and is the entity delegated by the board for such, then they should have the decisio

Re: cvs commit: incubator STATUS

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 01:22:24PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >... > +++ STATUS 17 Sep 2003 13:22:24 - 1.16 > @@ -13,11 +13,12 @@ > >1. Jim Jagieski has announced his intention to step down as chair > of the incubator project. A new chair needs to be selected. >

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I'd like to put my sincere plus one as the New Chair of the Apache Incubator Project To [ ] Nicola Ken Barozzi [ ] Ken Coar [ ] Paul Hammant ?? :) - To unsub

[VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On 17 Sep 2003 12:34:19 - (Subject: cvs commit: incubator STATUS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > +1. Jim Jagieski has announced his intention to step down as chair > + of the incubator project. A new chair needs to be selected. > + Current nominees are listed below; feel free to vote h