Re: Branch and tag deletions

2019-12-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 08:37:14PM +, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > Thanks for the list. As far as I can see all of those are no longer > > useful, so they could be jut deleted from the SVN repo (if everyone > > else agrees!) It is much safer to delet

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 08:24:47PM +, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > > Sure; I'm just saying rewriting old commit messages in such a style that > > they keep standing out from new ones is a bit of a weird choice. > > I'd say the rewrites make them stan

Keeping the existing git mirror history available

2019-12-02 Thread Joseph Myers
I've previously noted that when we move to git, while we should use a clean conversion with proper author attributions, we should also keep the commits from the existing git mirror available somewhere as there are various git-only branches there and lots of references to git commit ids in the l

Re: Branch and tag deletions

2019-12-02 Thread Joseph Myers
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:31:22PM +, Joseph Myers wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Nov 2019, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > > Please post the full names of all the tags you want to delete? > > > > Here is a list of 645 tags proposed for removal, in the var

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Joseph Myers
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > Sure; I'm just saying rewriting old commit messages in such a style that > they keep standing out from new ones is a bit of a weird choice. I'd say the rewrites make them stand out *less* (if people avoid having new commit messages whose summary li

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Richard Sandiford
"Richard Earnshaw (lists)" writes: > The real question at this point is whether or not these commit summaries > are better than the existing ones. Personally, I think they are (or I > wouldn't have spent the time working on this), but I'm not the only > person with an interest here... +1 for hav

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Segher Boessenkool : > Do we postpone the transition another few months because we have to check > all commits for mistakes the conversion tool made because it tried to be > "smart"? > > Or will we rush in these changes, unnecessary errors and all, because > people have invested time in doing this

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Richard Earnshaw (lists)
On 02/12/2019 18:00, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 05:47:08PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: >> On 02/12/2019 17:25, Segher Boessenkool wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 04:18:59PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: On 02/12/2019 15:35, Segher Boessenkool wro

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 05:47:08PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: > On 02/12/2019 17:25, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 04:18:59PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: > >> On 02/12/2019 15:35, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > >>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:54:17AM +

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Richard Earnshaw (lists)
On 02/12/2019 17:25, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 04:18:59PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: >> On 02/12/2019 15:35, Segher Boessenkool wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:54:17AM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: - author attributions are sometimes incor

Re: Branch and tag deletions

2019-12-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:31:22PM +, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2019, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > Please post the full names of all the tags you want to delete? > > Here is a list of 645 tags proposed for removal, in the various > categories I gave. Vendor tags are only included

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 04:18:59PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: > On 02/12/2019 15:35, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:54:17AM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: > >> - author attributions are sometimes incorrect - reported > > > > This would disqualify tha

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Richard Earnshaw (lists)
On 02/12/2019 15:35, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:54:17AM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: >> - author attributions are sometimes incorrect - reported > > This would disqualify that "conversion", for me at least. Keeping all > warts we had in SVN is bett

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Hi, On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 10:54:17AM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote: > - author attributions are sometimes incorrect - reported This would disqualify that "conversion", for me at least. Keeping all warts we had in SVN is better than adding new lies, lies about important matters even.

Should libstdc++ (and libgcc_s) be NODELETE?

2019-12-02 Thread Florian Weimer
libstdc++ recently made an appearance in a glibc bug, which made me realize that they aren't marked as NODELETE (on GNU ELF platforms). (The bug in question was purely glibc, though.) Are these shared objects really expected to be unloaded? Given that libstdc++ contains many destructors, I expect

Re: Commit messages and the move to git

2019-12-02 Thread Richard Earnshaw (lists)
On 19/11/2019 14:56, Jason Merrill wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 4:38 PM Richard Earnshaw (lists) < richard.earns...@arm.com> wrote: On 18/11/2019 20:53, Jason Merrill wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 2:51 PM Segher Boessenkool < seg...@kernel.crashing.org> wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 07:2